gremlin

This is a shame because the truth is that in the 11th hour Bill Clinton called APA and asked Jim Sovitch, then APA president, if he would object to intervening in the strike. Sovitch did not object. Personally I believe Sovitch didn't want to test the resolve of SOME of his pilots and live with the resultant scabs and division that exists at United.

Since then Republican pilots have used this as the ONLY example that it doesn't matter which party occupies the White House. And they simply dismiss the fact that, during the Clinton Administration, other strikes, particularly Northwest pilots, occurred resulting in the biggest gains for pilot unions since deregulation.

Look at the strikes that were "allowed" to occur during the Bush II Administration. Only groups that had a good chance of getting busted were released into the cooling off period. Polar pilots could not strike a large number of flights since they were DOD, Northwest mechanics were simply busted and replaced. The Comair pilots are my heros for the bravery they showed in sticking out for so long and surviving.

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Dog Breath

TOS reminder:

It's one thing to discuss the possibility of Fred Smith for VP, as it has been mentioned in the news. It's a totally different matter once the discussion turns into a "Vote for _____ " type thread, in which case we will have to shut it down per the Forum Rules.

HoursHore

I really don't think McCain would pick another Grumpy Gray haired old White guy to run with him against the Hope/Change Orator in Chief Messiah.

koz2000

But the job that's still worth going to will now give you a paycheck that is so heavily taxed that it really isn't worth going to anymore.

AerisArmis

So..anybody who disagrees with you is ignorant? Got it... but just so we can accurately determine who else is ignorant. Do you also agree that it is a good idea to raise the top tax bracket to 39%, eliminate the FICA tax cap of 100K and raise the capital gains tax to 35% from 15% (think 401K, B fund, IRA, mutual funds, stock investments)? I can only speak for myself, but these 3 will have more impact on me than who is running the NLRB. Also, whomever is elected, the Speaker of the House, and the Majority leader of the Senate are almost sure to remain which would mitigate (I know you boys love that word) any potential anti-labor legislation proposed from the White House. Don't forget, tax money to politicians is like heroin to an addict.

Buck92

Great point. Consider the FICA tax cap gone. Fixing social security isn't rocket sugery... there are only 3 things you can do (besides scrapping it entirely, which will never happen because too many people depend on it as their ENTIRE income during retirement): 1. raise taxes 2. cut benefits (including increase age at which benefits begin, like they've been doing) or 3. both. It's a pyramid scheme that worked great when the folks at the top collecting were way outnumbered by the folks at the bottom (us) paying in. They also died much sooner... so I guess maybe there's a fourth way. Like all pyramid schemes, it falls apart as the pyramid inverts and there is more going out than coming in. Capital gains is another one, but 401K, B fund, and IRA are all taxed as ordinary income when you pull money out, NOT the capital gains rate. The exception, of course, being Roth IRA/401K ... for now. Hopefully they won't go back on that good deal.

jungle

I'll wake up if you will study the cause and effect of a strong economy and a thriving business with regard to wages. This can never be generated by some man behind the curtain in Washington.

You can ensure only one thing-another lifelong political huckster will gain office next January.

Capt America

Call me idealistic but I vote as a citizen first and that responsibility out weighs me as a pilot. I am sure that there are more important things to consider above your job when you cast your ballot.

MEMA300

[QUOTE=jungle;436507]I'll wake up if you will study the cause and effect of a strong economy and a thriving business with regard to wages. This can never be generated by some man behind the curtain in Washington.



USATODAY.com - Democrats or Republicans? Just the facts

So, are you implying that republicans control the economy better than democrats? The FACTS do not agree with you. Of course right wingers never let the facts get in the way of an argument.

jungle

[QUOTE=MEMA300;436517]It is alway an easy assumption and an incorrect one to assume that government controls the economy. If it happens to do well under a certain administration, the party takes credit.
The truth is that governments only cause economic distress by intervention in free markets, high rates of taxation and out of control spending. I wouldn't expect you to glean that from Mcpaper though.