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Old 07-31-2008, 02:16 PM
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I'm guessing you are rooting for the people who proudly display the Che posters in their office. A brief study of history from 1917 onward will quickly rid you of the illusion that strong economies are the product of worker's paradises framed on the precept of "...each according to his need..."
Actually, start that study from 1913 onwards with relation to monetary policy. Namely, the creation of the Fed followed by the 16th amendment. Follow the money to get some answers!
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:21 PM
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Tell that to all of those people who are out of work and on welfare. Tell that to all of the homeless veterans and other citizens. Kind of hard to be a good citizen when you can't provide for the basic necessities of your family.
2 days ago, the USA Today said homelessness fell 30% from 2002 till 2007. Of course, since that doesn't help your argument, you can spin it or ignore it as you chose. BTW, veterans have access to VA hospitals and many types of preferential hiring and education programs. The average veteran is a far more stable, worldly and engaged citizen than the average product of the public schools who never really ventures far from home. There are homeless veterans, but to insinuate that a change of unemployment from 5% (now and very low) to 4.5% will put them all in a 1400 sq ft Rancher with a car port, pick up truck, and a job with their name embroidered on their shirt pocket is a hollow argument indeed.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:31 PM
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Wow! From FS being on a short list for VP to our governments ruining our life.

Well, I have to agree that gov't intervention has caused great turmoil in this country's economy and foreign economies across both ponds regardless of the party in power. But, I think that the Federal Reserve, since it's divine creation nearly 100 years ago by private bankers, is this nations greatest inflater and may achieve the death of the middle class.

But now, back to our movie...starring Charleton Heston in Soylent Green set in the year 2022.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot View Post
Actually, start that study from 1913 onwards with relation to monetary policy. Namely, the creation of the Fed followed by the 16th amendment. Follow the money to get some answers!
Looks like they forgot about that first line: The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises [ . . . ] but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States [
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:01 PM
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Looks like they forgot about that first line: The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises [ . . . ] but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States [
Congress has the power. They have just abdicated to the Fed through the Treasury Dept. with no oversight as to the constitutionality of the Feds decisions!

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Old 07-31-2008, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot View Post
Congress has the power. They have just abdicated to the Fed through the Treasury Dept. with no oversight as to the constitutionality of the Feds decisions!
It's helpful to understand why the Fed was originally created: it was created by bankers to protect... get this... bankers, NOT depositers! Just like the Bear Sterns bailout: that wasn't done to help investors or people who held accounts at BS (and certainly not to help the employees, most of whom lost everything). It was done to help other investment banks and bankers who held their paper and/or margined them loans. Goldman Sacs, and others wanted to make sure BS didn't go totally belly up and default on loans to them, the banks!
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:04 PM
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I really don't think McCain would pick another Grumpy Gray haired old White guy to run with him against the Hope/Change Orator in Chief Messiah.
Bumper stickers are already being printed:

VOTE FOR THE GEEZER
AND CONDOLEEZZER
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