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viperdriver 08-07-2008 12:37 PM

Min Bid Pay Guarantee
 
How does this prevent a furlough?

The company can lower MBPG to 48 and keep BLG at 68 and then furlough? Seems to me like no protection at all. And different than how we thought it was going to work.


From Meeting minutes

The CBA allows the Company to reduce Minimum Bid Pay Guarantee (incrementally, we believe, should they choose to) to 48 hours. It is important to note that Minimum Bid Period Guarantee (MBPG) and Bid Line Guarantee (BLG) are not the same thing. MBPG is the absolute minimum a pilot can be compensated for a given month (without dropping or trading trips), while Bid Line Guarantee (BLG) is the guaranteed pay for a given awarded line be it a regular line or reserve line. Just because the Minimum Bid Period Guarantee is reduced to 48 hrs does not necessarily mean BLG will be reduced correspondingly. Should management initiate Section 4.A.2.b. to prevent a furlough, it is very possible that Bid Line Guarantees would stay pretty close to where they currently are, although the lines that are currently built below 68 hours (4 week month) will not be “Bought up” to pay 68 hrs as is currently being done. Some members of flight management have even acknowledged in their hub-turn meetings that this airline could not operate with BLG’s anywhere near 48 credit hours.

Spur 08-07-2008 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by viperdriver (Post 440453)
How does this prevent a furlough?

The company can lower MBPG to 48 and keep BLG at 68 and then furlough? Seems to me like no protection at all. And different than how we thought it was going to work.

Possibly it allows another method of cost control (BLG reduction vice furlough) that is more palatable to the company and crewforce.

This has been discussed before on this board with no consensus. Now we have an answer. My suggestion is take off those rose colored glasses when you're reading the CBA.

Overnitefr8 08-07-2008 04:36 PM

According to DW at last night's meeting, if the company announces that they are lowering the BLG to prevent a furlough, they can do so. They haven't done so yet, that is why they are buying up the lines that currently go below 68/85. If they do announce, they can go below to any number between 68 and 48 (4 week month). They must go done to 48 before any furlough occurs.

He said in June the company paid $5 million to buy up lines. He also said that if the company made the announcement now, they would only need to drop the BLG down to 64 - 66 hours to make the manning issue correct.

viperdriver 08-07-2008 05:22 PM

But this paragraph says that BLG does not have to be lowered at all to furlough, only MBPG. I don't see how this paragraph saves one job. Looks like it is beneficial to the company, not the pilots.

Busboy 08-07-2008 05:24 PM

What's that paragraph from?

viperdriver 08-07-2008 05:35 PM

LEC 7 briefing notes. I guess the difference between BLG and MBPG is important. Looks like the company can lower BLG to prevent a fulough but doesn't have to?

Busboy 08-07-2008 05:40 PM

Where might the LEC 7 briefing notes be found? I don't see them anywhere on the ALPA site.

viperdriver 08-07-2008 05:44 PM

https://crewroom.alpa.org/fdx/Deskto...cumentID=15281

Busboy 08-07-2008 05:51 PM

Hmmmm..."Access denied".

Must be some real super secret stuff that not all FDX ALPA members should be privy to?

matty 08-07-2008 06:00 PM

Go here and LOGIN:

https://crewroom.alpa.org/Default.as...&ctl=CrewLogin

Then, go here:

https://crewroom.alpa.org/fdx/Deskto...cumentID=15281


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