FDX varsity deviation question
08-15-2008, 04:10 PM
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FDX varsity deviation question
Maybe this isn't varsity--maybe I'm just JV but...I have a trip that dh's to ORD, lays over for 24h, dh's to CDG and lays over for 48h. I want to deviate from my hometown and stop in NYC for a night before catching up with my trip in gay paris. Can I use my deviation bank to pay for a hotel room in NYC? If yes how do you do it? Anything need to be coordinated besides the initial request to deviate??? Thanks for the help. Keep the jeers to a minimum!
08-15-2008, 04:33 PM
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Pig, the answer to your questions are in the contract. Yes, you can pay for the New York hotel room as a part of your intl deviation per:
Chap. 25 - C.3.d.2.(b) A pilot who deviates from international deadhead travel may expense hotel(s) as part of his deviation travel as follows:
(1) he may expense 1 hotel room as a deviation expense, or
(2) he may expense up to the same number of hotel rooms as in
his scheduled deadhead.
And you can stop at an intermediate stop (i.e., NYC) for up to 48 hours as part of your deviation travel per:
Chap. 25 - C.4.d. Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
Just follow the normal deviation procedures and you should be covered. You should make sure you give yourself plenty of backups out of NY in case something goes wrong with your scheduled flight (maybe make sure a EWR-CDG jumpseat the night after your scheduled DH is available).
Chap. 25 - C.3.d.2.(b) A pilot who deviates from international deadhead travel may expense hotel(s) as part of his deviation travel as follows:
(1) he may expense 1 hotel room as a deviation expense, or
(2) he may expense up to the same number of hotel rooms as in
his scheduled deadhead.
And you can stop at an intermediate stop (i.e., NYC) for up to 48 hours as part of your deviation travel per:
Chap. 25 - C.4.d. Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
Just follow the normal deviation procedures and you should be covered. You should make sure you give yourself plenty of backups out of NY in case something goes wrong with your scheduled flight (maybe make sure a EWR-CDG jumpseat the night after your scheduled DH is available).
08-15-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperone
Pig, the answer to your questions are in the contract. Yes, you can pay for the New York hotel room as a part of your intl deviation per:
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08-15-2008, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8doggie
I think you need to use a company contracted hotel in any case, not sure tho. Doublecheck to be safe.
08-15-2008, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8doggie
I think you need to use a company contracted hotel in any case, not sure tho. Doublecheck to be safe.
Originally Posted by MaydayMark
And you will only be reimbursed at the contract hotel rate (maximum)
but....
the maximum you will be reimbursed is the "contract hotel rate for the city associated with the REVENUE PORTION of the trip" (from CBA 8.C.3.d.iii.b.2)
so in this case - stay in any hotel in NYC, and you will be reimbursed up to the contract rate for hotels in Paris.
you can find these contract hotel rates for Paris or any city on the Expense Report section of the pilot.fedex.com web site - link on the left side of the Expense Report home page.
I know this 'cause I had a similar trip and they tried to only reimburse me up to the ORD contract rate but when all was said and done, I got reimbursed for the full amount up to the CDG max rate.
and the hotel I used wasn't in Chicago or Paris.
Good luck.
08-15-2008, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11
It doesn't have to be a "company contracted" hotel - it can be ANY hotel.
but....
the maximum you will be reimbursed is the "contract hotel rate for the city associated with the REVENUE PORTION of the trip" (from CBA 8.C.3.d.iii.b.2)
so in this case - stay in any hotel in NYC, and you will be reimbursed up to the contract rate for hotels in Paris.
you can find these contract hotel rates for Paris or any city on the Expense Report section of the pilot.fedex.com web site - link on the left side of the Expense Report home page.
I know this 'cause I had a similar trip and they tried to only reimburse me up to the ORD contract rate but when all was said and done, I got reimbursed for the full amount up to the CDG max rate.
and the hotel I used wasn't in Chicago or Paris.
Good luck.
but....
the maximum you will be reimbursed is the "contract hotel rate for the city associated with the REVENUE PORTION of the trip" (from CBA 8.C.3.d.iii.b.2)
so in this case - stay in any hotel in NYC, and you will be reimbursed up to the contract rate for hotels in Paris.
you can find these contract hotel rates for Paris or any city on the Expense Report section of the pilot.fedex.com web site - link on the left side of the Expense Report home page.
I know this 'cause I had a similar trip and they tried to only reimburse me up to the ORD contract rate but when all was said and done, I got reimbursed for the full amount up to the CDG max rate.
and the hotel I used wasn't in Chicago or Paris.
Good luck.
08-11-2012, 01:23 PM
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I have a question of how the company interprets the 48 hour enroute delay for international deviation:
Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
If part of my legs starts or finish internationally, do I fall under that clause?
Is ANC considered international in this part of the contract?
Specifically if I deadhead NRT-DFW-ANC, layover 30 hours, then continue down to the lower 48, is that an acceptable deviation in the company 48 hour delay enroute internationally?
Thanks.
Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
If part of my legs starts or finish internationally, do I fall under that clause?
Is ANC considered international in this part of the contract?
Specifically if I deadhead NRT-DFW-ANC, layover 30 hours, then continue down to the lower 48, is that an acceptable deviation in the company 48 hour delay enroute internationally?
Thanks.
08-11-2012, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ancreserve
I have a question of how the company interprets the 48 hour enroute delay for international deviation:
Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
If part of my legs starts or finish internationally, do I fall under that clause?
Is ANC considered international in this part of the contract?
Specifically if I deadhead NRT-DFW-ANC, layover 30 hours, then continue down to the lower 48, is that an acceptable deviation in the company 48 hour delay enroute internationally?
Thanks.
Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
If part of my legs starts or finish internationally, do I fall under that clause?
Is ANC considered international in this part of the contract?
Specifically if I deadhead NRT-DFW-ANC, layover 30 hours, then continue down to the lower 48, is that an acceptable deviation in the company 48 hour delay enroute internationally?
Thanks.
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