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08-25-2008, 03:03 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by Commando
What is the Hiring hotline number? Also, is there a web sight address? My UAL buddy needs the info. Thanks-
08-25-2008, 03:58 PM
#23
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I am sympathetic to all those looking for new jobs. I too am included in that group. However, I have to wonder, would those in charge of hiring at UPS be that thrilled about hiring a furloughed pilot?
Personally, if I was on the interview panel, the question I'd ask of a furloughed major airline pilot would be, "If you are that thrilled about UPS, why didn't you interview here in the first place? Wasn't UPS good enough for you back then?".
Even if they do hire a furloughed major airline pilot, I'm assuming UPS would require you to resign from your other airline. However I remember back after 9/11 the airline I work for hired a bunch of pilots from other airlines who did resign from the airline they were furloughed from, but guess what?
Once their original airline started calling furloughs back, they still called back the pilots who resigned, and said, "hey we know you only resigned because you had to, but if you want your job back, we'll just not recognize that resignation, and give you your seniority back.
So my airline got stung when those guys started to jump ship back to their original airline.
Would't UPS be concerned about that?
Again, I'm not trying to criticize, just asking a question to see if anyone else has an opinion or some knowledge on how UPS handles that.
Personally, if I was on the interview panel, the question I'd ask of a furloughed major airline pilot would be, "If you are that thrilled about UPS, why didn't you interview here in the first place? Wasn't UPS good enough for you back then?".
Even if they do hire a furloughed major airline pilot, I'm assuming UPS would require you to resign from your other airline. However I remember back after 9/11 the airline I work for hired a bunch of pilots from other airlines who did resign from the airline they were furloughed from, but guess what?
Once their original airline started calling furloughs back, they still called back the pilots who resigned, and said, "hey we know you only resigned because you had to, but if you want your job back, we'll just not recognize that resignation, and give you your seniority back.
So my airline got stung when those guys started to jump ship back to their original airline.
Would't UPS be concerned about that?
Again, I'm not trying to criticize, just asking a question to see if anyone else has an opinion or some knowledge on how UPS handles that.
08-25-2008, 04:19 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by overworked
I am sympathetic to all those looking for new jobs. I too am included in that group. However, I have to wonder, would those in charge of hiring at UPS be that thrilled about hiring a furloughed pilot?
Personally, if I was on the interview panel, the question I'd ask of a furloughed major airline pilot would be, "If you are that thrilled about UPS, why didn't you interview here in the first place? Wasn't UPS good enough for you back then?".
Even if they do hire a furloughed major airline pilot, I'm assuming UPS would require you to resign from your other airline. However I remember back after 9/11 the airline I work for hired a bunch of pilots from other airlines who did resign from the airline they were furloughed from, but guess what?
Once their original airline started calling furloughs back, they still called back the pilots who resigned, and said, "hey we know you only resigned because you had to, but if you want your job back, we'll just not recognize that resignation, and give you your seniority back.
So my airline got stung when those guys started to jump ship back to their original airline.
Would't UPS be concerned about that?
Again, I'm not trying to criticize, just asking a question to see if anyone else has an opinion or some knowledge on how UPS handles that.
Personally, if I was on the interview panel, the question I'd ask of a furloughed major airline pilot would be, "If you are that thrilled about UPS, why didn't you interview here in the first place? Wasn't UPS good enough for you back then?".
Even if they do hire a furloughed major airline pilot, I'm assuming UPS would require you to resign from your other airline. However I remember back after 9/11 the airline I work for hired a bunch of pilots from other airlines who did resign from the airline they were furloughed from, but guess what?
Once their original airline started calling furloughs back, they still called back the pilots who resigned, and said, "hey we know you only resigned because you had to, but if you want your job back, we'll just not recognize that resignation, and give you your seniority back.
So my airline got stung when those guys started to jump ship back to their original airline.
Would't UPS be concerned about that?
Again, I'm not trying to criticize, just asking a question to see if anyone else has an opinion or some knowledge on how UPS handles that.
UPS concerns itself with bigger and better things ... like what flights get catered where the catering goes untouched ...
... I jest, I jest !!!In reality, UPS handles it (your furlough question) on a case by case basis ... I think, or so it seems !
Sorry to be so vague, but it is what it is !
the Brown CC
08-25-2008, 04:25 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by overworked
I am sympathetic to all those looking for new jobs. I too am included in that group. However, I have to wonder, would those in charge of hiring at UPS be that thrilled about hiring a furloughed pilot?
Personally, if I was on the interview panel, the question I'd ask of a furloughed major airline pilot would be, "If you are that thrilled about UPS, why didn't you interview here in the first place? Wasn't UPS good enough for you back then?".
Even if they do hire a furloughed major airline pilot, I'm assuming UPS would require you to resign from your other airline. However I remember back after 9/11 the airline I work for hired a bunch of pilots from other airlines who did resign from the airline they were furloughed from, but guess what?
Once their original airline started calling furloughs back, they still called back the pilots who resigned, and said, "hey we know you only resigned because you had to, but if you want your job back, we'll just not recognize that resignation, and give you your seniority back.
So my airline got stung when those guys started to jump ship back to their original airline.
Would't UPS be concerned about that?
Again, I'm not trying to criticize, just asking a question to see if anyone else has an opinion or some knowledge on how UPS handles that.
Personally, if I was on the interview panel, the question I'd ask of a furloughed major airline pilot would be, "If you are that thrilled about UPS, why didn't you interview here in the first place? Wasn't UPS good enough for you back then?".
Even if they do hire a furloughed major airline pilot, I'm assuming UPS would require you to resign from your other airline. However I remember back after 9/11 the airline I work for hired a bunch of pilots from other airlines who did resign from the airline they were furloughed from, but guess what?
Once their original airline started calling furloughs back, they still called back the pilots who resigned, and said, "hey we know you only resigned because you had to, but if you want your job back, we'll just not recognize that resignation, and give you your seniority back.
So my airline got stung when those guys started to jump ship back to their original airline.
Would't UPS be concerned about that?
Again, I'm not trying to criticize, just asking a question to see if anyone else has an opinion or some knowledge on how UPS handles that.
I don't believe that a new employer can require you to resign from a prior position, could be wrong.
A manager long ago indicated that if they wanted to go that they wouldn't be missed and that the company felt that once employed by UPS that they would find it advantageous to stay.
08-25-2008, 06:30 PM
#27
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overworked,
I was furloughed from ATA when I hired on at UPS. I was never asked anything about it, nor was I asked to resign my seniority. Truthfully, I don't think it matters if you are furloughed or not. They are looking for the most qualified individuals at that time, and through the interview process, they can get a good feel if you really want to be here. If you show that you know about the company, showing them that you are excited to be there, and can pass a sim check, you have a real good chance to get hired.
I was furloughed from ATA when I hired on at UPS. I was never asked anything about it, nor was I asked to resign my seniority. Truthfully, I don't think it matters if you are furloughed or not. They are looking for the most qualified individuals at that time, and through the interview process, they can get a good feel if you really want to be here. If you show that you know about the company, showing them that you are excited to be there, and can pass a sim check, you have a real good chance to get hired.
08-25-2008, 09:19 PM
#28
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I am furloughed from USAir. They never asked and don't care. It would be silly to leave here anyway. All they wanted to know was if I had heavy international experience. Which fortunately for me I got at a two year stint at Atlas.
Greatest day in my career was getting hired at Brown....second greatest was telling USAir to shove it.
Greatest day in my career was getting hired at Brown....second greatest was telling USAir to shove it.
08-26-2008, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by buggs
I am furloughed from USAir. They never asked and don't care. It would be silly to leave here anyway. All they wanted to know was if I had heavy international experience. Which fortunately for me I got at a two year stint at Atlas.
Greatest day in my career was getting hired at Brown....second greatest was telling USAir to shove it.
Greatest day in my career was getting hired at Brown....second greatest was telling USAir to shove it.
I second that sentiment !
08-29-2008, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by overworked
I am sympathetic to all those looking for new jobs. I too am included in that group. However, I have to wonder, would those in charge of hiring at UPS be that thrilled about hiring a furloughed pilot?
Personally, if I was on the interview panel, the question I'd ask of a furloughed major airline pilot would be, "If you are that thrilled about UPS, why didn't you interview here in the first place? Wasn't UPS good enough for you back then?".
Even if they do hire a furloughed major airline pilot, I'm assuming UPS would require you to resign from your other airline. However I remember back after 9/11 the airline I work for hired a bunch of pilots from other airlines who did resign from the airline they were furloughed from, but guess what?
Once their original airline started calling furloughs back, they still called back the pilots who resigned, and said, "hey we know you only resigned because you had to, but if you want your job back, we'll just not recognize that resignation, and give you your seniority back.
So my airline got stung when those guys started to jump ship back to their original airline.
Would't UPS be concerned about that?
Again, I'm not trying to criticize, just asking a question to see if anyone else has an opinion or some knowledge on how UPS handles that.
Personally, if I was on the interview panel, the question I'd ask of a furloughed major airline pilot would be, "If you are that thrilled about UPS, why didn't you interview here in the first place? Wasn't UPS good enough for you back then?".
Even if they do hire a furloughed major airline pilot, I'm assuming UPS would require you to resign from your other airline. However I remember back after 9/11 the airline I work for hired a bunch of pilots from other airlines who did resign from the airline they were furloughed from, but guess what?
Once their original airline started calling furloughs back, they still called back the pilots who resigned, and said, "hey we know you only resigned because you had to, but if you want your job back, we'll just not recognize that resignation, and give you your seniority back.
So my airline got stung when those guys started to jump ship back to their original airline.
Would't UPS be concerned about that?
Again, I'm not trying to criticize, just asking a question to see if anyone else has an opinion or some knowledge on how UPS handles that.
Also, a while back when UPS hired many Delta pilots, most if not all went back to Delta when they got recalled with accrued seniority while on furlough (the way it was explained to me a 1 year Delta employee for example who was furloughed for 3 years came back with 4-year seniority for pay purposes).
Still, I don’t think it matters when it comes to Big Brown; my entire class for example consisted of furloughed and/or military pilots (some of the ex-military pilots were also furloughed from a major airline). In fact only 2 pilots didn't fit that description.
Therefore, personally I think a pilot who is furloughed from another airline has as good of a chance of getting hired at UPS as someone who is not furloughed.
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