Status of "other remedies" ??
08-19-2008, 10:25 PM
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Status of "other remedies" ??
Just wondering if anyone out there knows the status between the union and the company talks about the supposed other remedies presented?? Reduced or elimination of carryover, buy-outs for ND's, etc., etc., etc...???
It would be nice that the Union update us on the status of such talks, other than the standard BS, before the company turns around and dishes out the next scare tactic....
It would be nice that the Union update us on the status of such talks, other than the standard BS, before the company turns around and dishes out the next scare tactic....
08-20-2008, 02:40 PM
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I wonder why some of you don't get updates. I get weekly ALPA updates, LEC updates, message lines etc. and feel pretty well informed. What are you doing wrong?
Just got this one a few hours ago:
Just got this one a few hours ago:
Ladies and Gentleman of Council -7 (Blocks 1, 4, and 8):
First, we would like to welcome all new council members arriving from the
annual block adjustment which took place last month.
Second, thanks up front for taking the time to stay informed.
Negotiations- As we reported to you in the last update, during the July
MEC meeting a plan was finalized to address the concerns of management
involving the over manning issue. In terms of background, Flight Management
came to us approximately four weeks ago, asking for a sit down to discuss
over manning. The companys legal representative indicated that this matter
was urgent and that we might see changes in our bid packs as early as
September. We rapidly convened two MEC teleconferences spanning nine hours
to finalize a response (to address the urgency). As a reminder, we began
work to develop a wide-ranging proposal, which contained solutions to a
possible over manning situation back in January 2008. We started our
planning when it became clear, based on information provided by ALPAs
Economic and Financial Analysis Department, the FDX MEC Retirement &
Insurance Committee and the FDX MEC Scheduling Committee that the economy
was in significant slow down, that oil was going to climb to never before
seen highs and that federal legislation changing regulated retirement age
would slow retirements and cause a log jam of pilots (additional factors
which contributed to over manning were: optimized pairing construction and
the aggressive move by flight management to transition from 3 to 2 pilot
aircraft). Our plan contained such elements as a early retirement program,
enhanced Personal Leave of Absence, vacation use flexibility, reduction in
overtime flying and so on. Our strategy was to incrementally introduce
these solutions over time so that the over manning issue could be mitigated
until retirements kicked in, oil came back down and the economy turned
around. The Negotiating Committee met with management and presented our
solutions. Currently, we are still waiting for management to present a
comprehensive proposal which includes our Early Retirement Program. At this
writing, we have received word from the MEC Chairman that the company has
received an analysis from the William Mercer Actuarial firm on the early
retirement program and we hope to have a counter proposal soon. We remain
hopeful that a solution is at hand.
Retirement Incentives at other carriers- Three months ago CAL introduced a
Furlough Mitigation LOA, which was very well received by the pilots and
substantially reduced the number of pilots who will be furloughed. This LOA
provided an early retirement incentive to senior pilots by providing a cash
bonus, retiree healthcare coverage bridge and lump sum defined benefit plan.
Additionally, American Airlines and its pilots union are in a standoff over
how to limit layoffs when the nation's biggest carrier shrinks its fleet
after Labor Day. The Allied Pilots Association also proposed that pilots
who decide to retire get five years of credit toward age and length of
service to increase their retirement benefits. The idea is that, by
encouraging older pilots to retire, the jobs of younger ones might be saved.
Joint and Local Council Meeting- Councils 7, 22, 26 are tentatively
scheduled to meet at the Holiday Inn Select on Democrat Road on 7 Oct from
1100-1300. Continuous transportation from the AOC will be provided until
1345. Lunch will be served. Please plan to attend.
Thanks again for taking the time to read this message. As always, we
solicit your comments. Please contact us at the numbers/emails below.
Fly Safely,
First, we would like to welcome all new council members arriving from the
annual block adjustment which took place last month.
Second, thanks up front for taking the time to stay informed.
Negotiations- As we reported to you in the last update, during the July
MEC meeting a plan was finalized to address the concerns of management
involving the over manning issue. In terms of background, Flight Management
came to us approximately four weeks ago, asking for a sit down to discuss
over manning. The companys legal representative indicated that this matter
was urgent and that we might see changes in our bid packs as early as
September. We rapidly convened two MEC teleconferences spanning nine hours
to finalize a response (to address the urgency). As a reminder, we began
work to develop a wide-ranging proposal, which contained solutions to a
possible over manning situation back in January 2008. We started our
planning when it became clear, based on information provided by ALPAs
Economic and Financial Analysis Department, the FDX MEC Retirement &
Insurance Committee and the FDX MEC Scheduling Committee that the economy
was in significant slow down, that oil was going to climb to never before
seen highs and that federal legislation changing regulated retirement age
would slow retirements and cause a log jam of pilots (additional factors
which contributed to over manning were: optimized pairing construction and
the aggressive move by flight management to transition from 3 to 2 pilot
aircraft). Our plan contained such elements as a early retirement program,
enhanced Personal Leave of Absence, vacation use flexibility, reduction in
overtime flying and so on. Our strategy was to incrementally introduce
these solutions over time so that the over manning issue could be mitigated
until retirements kicked in, oil came back down and the economy turned
around. The Negotiating Committee met with management and presented our
solutions. Currently, we are still waiting for management to present a
comprehensive proposal which includes our Early Retirement Program. At this
writing, we have received word from the MEC Chairman that the company has
received an analysis from the William Mercer Actuarial firm on the early
retirement program and we hope to have a counter proposal soon. We remain
hopeful that a solution is at hand.
Retirement Incentives at other carriers- Three months ago CAL introduced a
Furlough Mitigation LOA, which was very well received by the pilots and
substantially reduced the number of pilots who will be furloughed. This LOA
provided an early retirement incentive to senior pilots by providing a cash
bonus, retiree healthcare coverage bridge and lump sum defined benefit plan.
Additionally, American Airlines and its pilots union are in a standoff over
how to limit layoffs when the nation's biggest carrier shrinks its fleet
after Labor Day. The Allied Pilots Association also proposed that pilots
who decide to retire get five years of credit toward age and length of
service to increase their retirement benefits. The idea is that, by
encouraging older pilots to retire, the jobs of younger ones might be saved.
Joint and Local Council Meeting- Councils 7, 22, 26 are tentatively
scheduled to meet at the Holiday Inn Select on Democrat Road on 7 Oct from
1100-1300. Continuous transportation from the AOC will be provided until
1345. Lunch will be served. Please plan to attend.
Thanks again for taking the time to read this message. As always, we
solicit your comments. Please contact us at the numbers/emails below.
Fly Safely,
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