Reactivity

ATSG is a big umbrella covering a bunch of subsidiary companies. One of those companies is CAM - Cargo Aircraft Management. They're in the business of buying, converting, and leasing cargo aircraft. They will happily lease to anybody, inside ATSG or out - ABX, ATI, DHL, NAC, etc.

Braniff DC8

Three plus months and it's gone really quiet.

Any new news?
Is Miami still going?
More A/C? 767s?
Parking 737-200s?

Would be a great gig if you're lucky enough to get in.

Thank you.

akfr8r

The company is dragging their feet getting the contract done. They've parked one 737-200 and are in the process of adding a 737-400. The 767's aren't really close to delivery, and there are talks of pushing them back into 2018. Frankly, until the company makes a serious effort to get a contract done, the 767 is just a paper airplane. It certainly could be a great place to work, but right now there are a lot better options out there pay-wise. For guys that want to work in the lower 48, there are much better paying jobs. For guys that want to be in Alaska, NAC is no safe bet, as Miami is bound to go fairly junior. Which is probably why they can't hire anybody right now.

Braniff DC8

Thanks ak. There are people out there that would come but as you say the contract is important. Hope good news is forthcoming and all the best.

pilotlyfe

Do you guys fly a lot? What's the average flight time FO's bring in every month? What are competitive numbers to get hired? Is having Alaska turbine flight time experience a big thing?

Yukon780

We don't fly much, however it does seem to depend on the season. Summer, expect to fly 50ish. Winter, 15-20. That's actual block, there is currently no chance of crediting extra other than an odd day off call, travel assignment, or training. Keep in mind that's in AK, Laredo-do you have a magic 8 ball? That's the big plus to working here for us AK folks. If you're looking to build time towards another gig or whatever, I'd recommend somewhere else. Not sure what the company is looking for time wise in applicants. Twin Turbine time is a big plus, not necessarily "Alaska" time. They're still being a little selective on who gets brought in, make sure your resume is free of large spelling/grammatical errors. Hope this helps

magneto

Heard rumor NAC and Aloha Cargo going to combine onto one certificate. Anyone know about this? And what are their future plans?

Hawaii808

Rumors are true. Joint contract negotiations start this week. Should be interesting. They have a timeline for 767 flying early next year.

tengssuuciurta

Any updates on negotiations or hiring?

wjcandee

Don't know about that, but there was an official press release on July 5 by an ATSG subsidiary (CAM, as described above), that it had reached an agreement to dry-lease 3 767-300s to Northern Aviation Services, the parent company. It said that some of these aircraft would be used by Northern's subsidiaries to replace flying currently being done by ABX Air for Aloha, and also mentioned NAC.

There is currently one fully-converted 767-300 sitting in ILN that apparently will be leased out to someone and not used by one of ATSG's airline subsidiaries; it is quite possible that this will be the first one for Northern (or it might be for another customer -- I can't be sure). The press release about the agreement said that the first delivery would be in October.

For the person above who asked whether the ATSG aircraft were needed for Amazon: ATSG now has all 20 of its Amazon-contract aircraft in service: 8 767-300s and 12 767-200s. At least for now, all further new Amazon Prime aircraft will be owned and converted by Atlas's leasing subsidiary and operated by Atlas Air. Atlas is contracted for 20 767-300s, and currently has 8 Prime Air dedicated aircraft (plus one white-painted maintenance spare that covers DHL and Amazon as needed). They are currently operating 6 routes plus one hot spare with those 8 aircraft, and should get another route soon, as should ATI, which has one more Prime Air 767-300 in service than they need for their current routes.