They should just buy Lynden. Home basing for Lynden now. Did someone say Angola???

NAC is looking for 737 crews and it says it has and is getting more 767s?

Hmmm...NAC was one of the vendors for Amazon's original Aerosmith experiment. Their role was more limited than ATSG: they flew 737s, and their routes were ended while ATSG's were continued, and ATSG's routes morphed into a long-term contract. But this is interesting given that there has continued to be talk about Amazon wanting another 20 freighters from a third vendor, of which Connie was presumed to be the logical one. On the other hand, lots of folks are trying to fly 767s and 737s for DHL, so it may be nothing new. And it's hard to imagine NAC having the management and operational depth to handle a that-significantly-sized 7-day-per-week track-charter-type operation.

It's not as far fetched as you might imagine. ABX has been flying 767's for Aloha. Aloha's CBA says their pilots have to fly a new type after two years. Two years is close. Their crew costs are relatively low. Aloha and NAC are owned by Saltchuk. Who knows how deep their pockets are? I think they're closely held.

The one thing I know is their CEO David Karp is very smart and persistent. (We went to the same Northern school of hard knocks!)

Management and operational depth? Hell we prove every day those things have nothing to do with landing long term contracts. Atsg continues to prosper in spite of the former!

NAC is growing. New contract is being negotiated. Pay is way lower than industry standards. Saltchuk are smart investors. That being said. Why even look at working there? The pay is bad, when you get on you will be on the end of the seniority list away from home every month making about the lowest wages in the industry. Atlas is hiring, ABX is hiring, hell almost everyone is hiring. If your quality of life is going to suck you might as well make some money.

I know the pay isnt great, but both schedules are amazing in my book. And I am hoping that the pay goes up with the next contract.

So how many 737s now and how many 767s coming?

Is the new Chief Pilot a good guy?

App is in. Any latest?? Thanks.

The rumors are that interviews are set to begin in 2 weeks, hiring into the 737. Awaiting contract talks so that they have more to offer new hires. As far as the 3 Miami 767's, NAC is asking how many current line pilots want to upgrade, then filling the 737 voids with new hires. Current CP seems to be well liked.

Any idea what's competitive? And if calls have gone out?

Competitive: "fog a mirror!"

Internal recs are a very strong thing, also a history of tuffing it out in Alaska aviation go's a long way. The depth of the resumes on the CPs desk are 150+, alot can be said about QOL when you fly around Alaska 4 days a week and go home every night. Great crews, many are long time Alaskans and enjoy strapping on a Cub afterwork, then bring hunting and fishing stories back to the cockpit of the 73 the following day.

What is NAC doing in MIA with 767?

Probably taking over the ABX island/ jungle charters.

Rumor here at Atlas is Saltchuk to merge Aloha-NAC-Florida West.

Good to know. Thanks. Most of my time is alaska time. I still fly for an Alaska based company, but based in Portland

So Amazon is going to shore up Hawaii, Alaska, and the PNW? Hmm... Fed Ex and UPS are going to have a 3rd player

Putting everything under one roof most likely wont happen. NAC has a well know history in Ak , same with Aloha in Ha. As a pilot group it would make sense to have everyone on the same page.
Although using 767s to bring Amazon cargo to Hawaii and Alaska with one spare on standby may be plausible..... Based in PNW??
I hear that the 76 market place is on fire with Fed EX, Atlas, ABX, and NAC looking for both new and used airframes.

I'd say you can forget about the 767 being reasonably priced at the moment. Maybe some A300's?

There's an A300 (resplendent with FE panel) in Opa Locka right now. It looks repoed and is held in place with a large cement block. Probably cheap.

Seems to me that Everts may have dibs on that A300 already :) NAC had better up the bid...

Any new news here?

I too, am still waiting.

Update on NAC
 

They are building a pool for the 767. Still in negotiation talk for new contract. No idea what the pay will be until the contract is signed. January bid sheet has 6 slots on it for new hire training. No interviews so far for them. Things are a little crazy at NAC. A lot of new changes. We are behind the ABX crews a 100%.

Is there any concern at NAC over Alaska Airlines expanding cargo operations with their new freighters?

Would appreciate an update on ANC schedules. I've heard in the past it's typically 4/3 or 5/2. Wondering if a new hire B737FO would hold ANC flying or would be sent frequently to LRD/MIA. Also wondering about typical pay credit and pay during training?

NAC info
 

NAC DO just announce that there will be a Miami base starting March 1 2017. They are starting to call for interviews for I believe both 767 and 737. Miami will be the junior base. Not sure how easy it will be to hold a line in Anchorage. We have no idea what the schedule or pay is going to be. Both sides are negotiating and trying to get a contract to vote on. There could be a lot of crews based in Anchorage pushed down south to Miami. As you can expect this is causing a lot of termoil. The biggest benefit at NAC is being home at night. If this changes and pay does not substantially increase you will probably see a lot of guys leave. We are hoping for a commutable schedule for Miami. I will update when I hear more. Safe flying!

Hello Carribean **** flying......good luck. Glad we lost it!

You got something against Kingston, mon? Just make sure the APU is working! ;)

Loved the 3 hour turns in KIN and the 4 hr turns in PAP. God forbid the 16 HR crew days due to horse hauling.

And, also, you don't need a tow bar

You will simply be able to poach from Swift, Xtra, Amerijet, Dynamic and Air21. Yes, you will have to pay better. Commuting from ANC will be nearly impossible. Miami is a tough place to be based. The mass transit system is ok but unreliable. 36th street can be rather um, unsavory, let's say. Miami is not that cheap either. Hotels and car rentals are high in the winter for obvious reasons. Housing is coming back but it's still not cheap. Also keep in mind it can all change again. ANC then LRD now MIA, what next?

Best of luck to the NCA crews.

How are the contract negotiations going and does NAC have a 767 type on Cert. or is NAC buying Florida West for it?

Help with new MIA base
 

There's not much information out there about NAC. I'm trying to find out some info on the new MIA project. I'm a south florida local and have an upcoming interview. Looking forward to not commute.
These are my questions:

1. How many 767s for MIA?
2. How close (or far) is a new contract? Rumors on payscale for the 737 and 767?
3. Days off? Min day pay (duty rigs IF)?
4. Total expected growth? How many pilots on property? What percentage willing to relocate to MIA?
5. Management-pilot relationship? (Not expecting it to be the best, but within reason)
6. Contract compliance, abuse from management?
7. What are your biggest frustrations with the company, what do you like/hate about it?

Please save your career advise like "go to UPS, go to FedEx" no kidding... if you talk to them, tell them to call me.
Please don't mention the other ACMI's: Atlas, Southern, ABX, ATI, etc. (nothing against those guys, just know enough and don't want to derail the purpose of the thread)

Looking for objective answers. I care about being local, not commuting and have a decent quality of life. Not expecting UPS/FedEx rates. Just a place where I could spend a few years on without being miserable.

I know some people don't like to post public, so if you want to PM me, I'd be grateful.

Re: Help with new MIA base
 

You have an interview scheduled? Congrats! You have some good questions for them.

Answer to your questions vamp.

1. 2 767-300 at least 1 737-400 maybe more
2. Contract we hope will be signed by March but not sure could go to April?
3. Schedule 14 on 14 off
4. It sounds like NAC could grow a bit in the next couple years. In my opinion if you get in the first class you will probably most likely upgrade in under a year. We have 44 pilots at least 20 added in the next year.
5. As a pilot group we have a good relationship with Management. We realize they have a job to do. Of course there are those days. But we respect each other. We are small company. We all know each other.
6. No one ever tries to intentionally abuse each other but again we have those days. Lack of planning sometimes hits us.
7. In all it is not a bad place to work, as long as you do your job they pretty much leave you alone. We can be a bit unorganized sometimes that is my biggest complaint but to their credit they try to make things better - it may take a long time but they do (management) care.

I hope this helps.

Kool-aid this time of year? Management cares about the bottom line.