Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Cargo (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo/)
-   -   Northern Air Cargo (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/cargo/3046-northern-air-cargo.html)

dittidano 03-20-2006 03:48 AM

Northern Air Cargo
 
Is there any NAC drivers out there? I was just wondering how the pay and quality of life was there at NAC. Also, what are the schedules like?
Thanks for your time.
Dittidano

Schnides 03-20-2006 04:26 AM

When I was in AK a few years ago, all of their pilots were starting out as Flight Engineers in either DC-6s or 727s. I'm not sure if that's still the case.

CorporateGuy500 11-27-2010 11:22 AM

Bump this thread for any NAC guys out there. Looks like they are hiring 73 fo's and wondering any info on the company...qol, pay, cass participation, etc.

clipperskipper 11-27-2010 11:25 AM

I read this the other might on NAC'S site, I cannot seem to locate my Alaska driver's license....

Danzig 11-27-2010 12:48 PM

At least the rumor in the bush is that NAC is a great company to work for. They no longer have DC-6s but four 737-200s. Not too long ago they had one running charters out of Loredo, TX - but I'm not sure if that is still happening.

NAC is CASS, QOL seems pretty good (city based, two runs a day usually), and they will not even bother looking at your resume if you are not: currently an Alaska resident, flying in Alaska, or have significant former Alaska flying experience.

Good luck to all, but NAC is a goal of a significant portion of the Alaska pilot population. Unless you currently fly for Ryan, Era (conglomerate), Grant, ACE, Bering, PenAir, and maybe Yut, I wouldn't expect too much, but here's to hoping!

Danzig 11-27-2010 12:49 PM

Their 737-200s are all two-pilot crew, no more FEs

jrutt 11-27-2010 01:00 PM

ya i hated working the panel on the 737?

MaydayMark 11-27-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrutt (Post 907612)
ya i hated working the panel on the 737?

OK ... I suspect you said that in jest but I vaguely remember that when AA first received their 737's that APA was concerned about the loss of jobs and made AA fly them with an FE on the jumpseat? Anyone else remember that or did I imagine it?


Mark

Twin Wasp 11-27-2010 03:42 PM

I'd say you imagined it, at least the AA/APA part. American was a late comer to 737s. I think it was ALPA and maybe Delta that tried the 737 FE idea. The regs used to say any plane with a Max Gross TO weight over 90,000 would have an FE. Douglas built some baby Nines with the center installed but not connected to keep the MGTW under 90K. Boeing went ahead and rolled the 737-100 out over 90K and went to work lobbying. When the rule got changed to the A/C type certificate will state if a F/E is required, Douglas sent out some fuel lines to their custommers and the MGTW magically went over 90K.

Boeing built some 767s for QANTAS with a F/E panel.

UAL T38 Phlyer 11-27-2010 03:48 PM

737 3-Man Crew History
 
To my knowledge, only two airlines used 3-man crews on the 737, during its introductory years: United, and Western. I've been told the third guy really didn't even have any real duties (ie, there was no "Engineer's Panel"); merely an ALPA-appointed position to preserve pilot numbers.

Delta was a late-comer to the 737 too; they might not have flown them until they bought Western. (Can't remember).

I don't think the third-man lasted much more than a year or so.

MaydayMark 11-27-2010 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 907674)

Boeing built some 767s for QANTAS with a F/E panel.



The early analog PanAm A300's had a "flight engineer." They used to say that they read the newspaper between preflights (Airbus had designed them to be flown by a 2-man crew :eek:). They had a (fully automated) FE panel!*?

hoover 11-27-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 907608)
At least the rumor in the bush is that NAC is a great company to work for. They no longer have DC-6s but four 737-200s. Not too long ago they had one running charters out of Loredo, TX - but I'm not sure if that is still happening.

NAC is CASS, QOL seems pretty good (city based, two runs a day usually), and they will not even bother looking at your resume if you are not: currently an Alaska resident, flying in Alaska, or have significant former Alaska flying experience.

Good luck to all, but NAC is a goal of a significant portion of the Alaska pilot population. Unless you currently fly for Ryan, Era (conglomerate), Grant, ACE, Bering, PenAir, and maybe Yut, I wouldn't expect too much, but here's to hoping!

Does 4000 hrs in a turbo prop flying in SE AK count. I do not live in AK though.

gearcrankr 11-27-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 907687)
The early analog PanAm A300's had a "flight engineer." They used to say that they read the newspaper between preflights (Airbus had designed them to be flown by a 2-man crew :eek:). They had a (fully automated) FE panel!*?

DHL/Astar operated A300B4 with a SO until July 2009. Like you said Mark not much to do except preflight.:)

Singlecoil 11-28-2010 10:11 AM

Wien had FE's on the 737 as well.

ASpilot2be 11-28-2010 11:41 PM

I didnt work as a pilot, but as a ramper. I was very impressed with the company.

They have just aquired a 737-300F, and have another 737-200 sitting on the property that will be converted at some point in time.

Dougdrvr 11-29-2010 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singlecoil (Post 907978)
Wien had FE's on the 737 as well.

So did Frontier (the original)

ASpilot2be 05-12-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK Hawg (Post 991820)
Does anybody have any inside contact info for NAC they may be willing to PM to me? I tried to drop a resume by this morning, but got stopped up at the front desk and told that all hiring must be done online. She was actually very nice and I think would have sent me through to see the CP, but he was not in the office today.

I can not remember the hiring persons name at the moment. If I find her card I will pass along the info.

Right now they have two 737s, one -300 and one -200 floating around down in "America". I think they work two on two off, but I am not sure.

TallFlyer 05-13-2011 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK Hawg (Post 991820)
Does anybody have any inside contact info for NAC they may be willing to PM to me? I tried to drop a resume by this morning, but got stopped up at the front desk and told that all hiring must be done online. She was actually very nice and I think would have sent me through to see the CP, but he was not in the office today.

If you're on PPW PM mar. He's a former NAC DC-6 Capt now flying for Atlas. If you're in ANC he's a good guy to have lunch with.

Also, if you're prior service (esp. w/ C130 time) per their website Lynden is hiring two FOs.

TallFlyer 05-14-2011 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK Hawg (Post 993412)
TF - thanks for the point-out! I dropped off my app this afternoon - I don't have any Herc time, but maybe they'll think I'm worth training up ...

No prob, someone posted those openings on another board; I just brought them over here.

Last person I know that got hired was an Everts DC-6 Capt. that sometimes posts here.

TallFlyer 05-19-2011 05:00 PM

From NACs website:
Quote:

Effective 04/04/2011, Faxed or paper applications will no longer be accepted for new applicants. If you would like to apply for employment with Northern Air Cargo, all applicants are required to apply online using our secure job board. (Will launch in a new window.)
A bunch of FO positions on there. Only stated mins are ATP, although as has been said if you're not an Alaska guy already your chances are slim to none.

TallFlyer 05-19-2011 11:04 PM

Lol, I'll take my payment in the form of rides in the -60!

TallFlyer 05-20-2011 12:18 PM

Sweet! I might even get my pic in the paper!

FWIW, I just applied to the first opening.

Also, check the craigslist transport jobs in ANC.

NCR757dxr 05-21-2011 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASpilot2be (Post 993057)
Right now they have two 737s, one -300 and one -200 floating around down in "America". I think they work two on two off, but I am not sure.

The B733 is flying FLL-BNA-TOL-BNA-FLL every night and prior to that it was making freight runs out of LRD or something to places like TOL. I got to believe its flying for BAX Global or is doing work for ATSG in someway. Have no idea where the B732 is.

NCR757dxr 05-21-2011 06:55 AM

Quote:

Required to maintain a current Jeppesen approach plate subscription..
That seems weird? They make the FOs buy NAC's C070 jepp plates :confused:

thecloser2144 06-13-2011 05:24 AM

Pay scale
 
Does anyone know the pay scale?

ANCFRTDG 06-13-2011 02:26 PM

Are there any DC-6's still flying? What operates into McGrath? Thanks!

2bennySODC6 06-13-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANCFRTDG (Post 1007785)
Are there any DC-6's still flying? What operates into McGrath? Thanks!

Evert's Air Cargo will fly a DC-6 into McGrath once in a while.

TallFlyer 06-13-2011 10:05 PM

Hey Benny,

Any ideas on the next class? Been in Jeremy's office once already, hate to keep bugging the guy, although he does say stay in touch....

TF

flyguy37 06-24-2011 12:21 PM

Got called for an interview but couldn't work out a day. 6000 TT 3000 Jet currently live in ANC with 1000 hours Alaska time. I didn't even ask about pay or schedule. Heard it is pretty low for a 737.

Xtwinbeechguy 06-24-2011 02:47 PM

Pay is low for flying jets is an understatement. They're not looking for someone qualified for a captain position, just someone who will be there for a while and work for peanuts.

Lazyb757 08-01-2011 11:15 AM

Anyone hear anything lately about the hiring and second -300?

flyguy37 08-01-2011 11:41 AM

Not anything directly but with BAX shutting down Toledo I would suspect they won't need a new plane unless they got something else in the works

yukon60 10-27-2011 10:20 PM

I have been flying for NAC for 9 yrs. They are a good company with good people. They just hired 2 more FO's. We are still working out of Laredo. Run four times a week LRD-ELP-YIP-LRD. We are currently working to vote a union contract in. The pay starts out for FO's about 45000 after second year you get a 10 dollar hr increase in pay with a 65 hr monthly garrenty. Captians start out about 100k a year and top out around 145K. It is your average frieght job. If you live in Alaska it is great if you have a family because you are home every night. Flying down south you are gone 17 to 18 days with 14 off. You are mostly flying the back side of the clock but you can make extra money and they put you up in a nice hotel. The Chief pilot is Nate Martin and DO is Timo Saarinen. They are both very decent people to work for. I hope this help I will try to post when they are hiring next. If you are really interested, type up your resume and call them up and tell them you are going to drop it off and when a good time would be. A hand shake and a face to put with the resume helps when they start calling for interviews! And it shows you care! Good luck maybe I will see you in the cockpit.

lear 31 pilot 11-16-2011 07:56 AM

how long is the upgrade time?

yukon60 12-08-2011 10:27 PM

We just had 2 guys upgrade in a year, but that was out of the norm probably 5 years.

needtofly 12-18-2011 02:44 PM

Nac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yukon60 (Post 1076262)
I have been flying for NAC for 9 yrs. They are a good company with good people. They just hired 2 more FO's. We are still working out of Laredo. Run four times a week LRD-ELP-YIP-LRD. We are currently working to vote a union contract in. The pay starts out for FO's about 45000 after second year you get a 10 dollar hr increase in pay with a 65 hr monthly garrenty. Captians start out about 100k a year and top out around 145K. It is your average frieght job. If you live in Alaska it is great if you have a family because you are home every night. Flying down south you are gone 17 to 18 days with 14 off. You are mostly flying the back side of the clock but you can make extra money and they put you up in a nice hotel. The Chief pilot is Nate Martin and DO is Timo Saarinen. They are both very decent people to work for. I hope this help I will try to post when they are hiring next. If you are really interested, type up your resume and call them up and tell them you are going to drop it off and when a good time would be. A hand shake and a face to put with the resume helps when they start calling for interviews! And it shows you care! Good luck maybe I will see you in the cockpit.

Hey Yukon,

Great post. What is the outlook for hiring....if any?

yukon60 01-24-2012 08:16 AM

I think they will be hiring two more FO. Probably in the next month or two. We are no longer running the LRD-ELP-YIP-LRD. Management is actively searching for a ACMI contract for the 300.

jrutt 01-24-2012 08:20 AM

So how much flying does NAC still do in alaska? and what with, just the 737?

jlg79 02-04-2014 01:02 AM

Thread bump...

Their website says that they are actively collecting resumes... Any idea when they may hire? Any updates on QOL and or schedule. It lists starting hourly on the website. I live in ANC. Thanks guys.

JG

Braniff DC8 04-03-2016 12:59 AM

Any latest
 
Says they are securing, trying anyway, a new contract this year? Maybe some big growth?


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:33 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright 2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands