Northern Air Cargo
 

Is there any NAC drivers out there? I was just wondering how the pay and quality of life was there at NAC. Also, what are the schedules like?
Thanks for your time.
Dittidano

When I was in AK a few years ago, all of their pilots were starting out as Flight Engineers in either DC-6s or 727s. I'm not sure if that's still the case.

Bump this thread for any NAC guys out there. Looks like they are hiring 73 fo's and wondering any info on the company...qol, pay, cass participation, etc.

I read this the other might on NAC'S site, I cannot seem to locate my Alaska driver's license....

At least the rumor in the bush is that NAC is a great company to work for. They no longer have DC-6s but four 737-200s. Not too long ago they had one running charters out of Loredo, TX - but I'm not sure if that is still happening.

NAC is CASS, QOL seems pretty good (city based, two runs a day usually), and they will not even bother looking at your resume if you are not: currently an Alaska resident, flying in Alaska, or have significant former Alaska flying experience.

Good luck to all, but NAC is a goal of a significant portion of the Alaska pilot population. Unless you currently fly for Ryan, Era (conglomerate), Grant, ACE, Bering, PenAir, and maybe Yut, I wouldn't expect too much, but here's to hoping!

Their 737-200s are all two-pilot crew, no more FEs

ya i hated working the panel on the 737?

OK ... I suspect you said that in jest but I vaguely remember that when AA first received their 737's that APA was concerned about the loss of jobs and made AA fly them with an FE on the jumpseat? Anyone else remember that or did I imagine it?


Mark

I'd say you imagined it, at least the AA/APA part. American was a late comer to 737s. I think it was ALPA and maybe Delta that tried the 737 FE idea. The regs used to say any plane with a Max Gross TO weight over 90,000 would have an FE. Douglas built some baby Nines with the center installed but not connected to keep the MGTW under 90K. Boeing went ahead and rolled the 737-100 out over 90K and went to work lobbying. When the rule got changed to the A/C type certificate will state if a F/E is required, Douglas sent out some fuel lines to their custommers and the MGTW magically went over 90K.

Boeing built some 767s for QANTAS with a F/E panel.

737 3-Man Crew History
 

To my knowledge, only two airlines used 3-man crews on the 737, during its introductory years: United, and Western. I've been told the third guy really didn't even have any real duties (ie, there was no "Engineer's Panel"); merely an ALPA-appointed position to preserve pilot numbers.

Delta was a late-comer to the 737 too; they might not have flown them until they bought Western. (Can't remember).

I don't think the third-man lasted much more than a year or so.

The early analog PanAm A300's had a "flight engineer." They used to say that they read the newspaper between preflights (Airbus had designed them to be flown by a 2-man crew :eek:). They had a (fully automated) FE panel!*?

Does 4000 hrs in a turbo prop flying in SE AK count. I do not live in AK though.

DHL/Astar operated A300B4 with a SO until July 2009. Like you said Mark not much to do except preflight.:)

Wien had FE's on the 737 as well.

I didnt work as a pilot, but as a ramper. I was very impressed with the company.

They have just aquired a 737-300F, and have another 737-200 sitting on the property that will be converted at some point in time.

So did Frontier (the original)

I can not remember the hiring persons name at the moment. If I find her card I will pass along the info.

Right now they have two 737s, one -300 and one -200 floating around down in "America". I think they work two on two off, but I am not sure.

If you're on PPW PM mar. He's a former NAC DC-6 Capt now flying for Atlas. If you're in ANC he's a good guy to have lunch with.

Also, if you're prior service (esp. w/ C130 time) per their website Lynden is hiring two FOs.

No prob, someone posted those openings on another board; I just brought them over here.

Last person I know that got hired was an Everts DC-6 Capt. that sometimes posts here.

From NACs website:
A bunch of FO positions on there. Only stated mins are ATP, although as has been said if you're not an Alaska guy already your chances are slim to none.

Lol, I'll take my payment in the form of rides in the -60!

Sweet! I might even get my pic in the paper!

FWIW, I just applied to the first opening.

Also, check the craigslist transport jobs in ANC.

The B733 is flying FLL-BNA-TOL-BNA-FLL every night and prior to that it was making freight runs out of LRD or something to places like TOL. I got to believe its flying for BAX Global or is doing work for ATSG in someway. Have no idea where the B732 is.

That seems weird? They make the FOs buy NAC's C070 jepp plates :confused:

Pay scale
 

Does anyone know the pay scale?

Are there any DC-6's still flying? What operates into McGrath? Thanks!

Evert's Air Cargo will fly a DC-6 into McGrath once in a while.

Hey Benny,

Any ideas on the next class? Been in Jeremy's office once already, hate to keep bugging the guy, although he does say stay in touch....

TF

Got called for an interview but couldn't work out a day. 6000 TT 3000 Jet currently live in ANC with 1000 hours Alaska time. I didn't even ask about pay or schedule. Heard it is pretty low for a 737.

Pay is low for flying jets is an understatement. They're not looking for someone qualified for a captain position, just someone who will be there for a while and work for peanuts.

Anyone hear anything lately about the hiring and second -300?

Not anything directly but with BAX shutting down Toledo I would suspect they won't need a new plane unless they got something else in the works

I have been flying for NAC for 9 yrs. They are a good company with good people. They just hired 2 more FO's. We are still working out of Laredo. Run four times a week LRD-ELP-YIP-LRD. We are currently working to vote a union contract in. The pay starts out for FO's about 45000 after second year you get a 10 dollar hr increase in pay with a 65 hr monthly garrenty. Captians start out about 100k a year and top out around 145K. It is your average frieght job. If you live in Alaska it is great if you have a family because you are home every night. Flying down south you are gone 17 to 18 days with 14 off. You are mostly flying the back side of the clock but you can make extra money and they put you up in a nice hotel. The Chief pilot is Nate Martin and DO is Timo Saarinen. They are both very decent people to work for. I hope this help I will try to post when they are hiring next. If you are really interested, type up your resume and call them up and tell them you are going to drop it off and when a good time would be. A hand shake and a face to put with the resume helps when they start calling for interviews! And it shows you care! Good luck maybe I will see you in the cockpit.

how long is the upgrade time?

We just had 2 guys upgrade in a year, but that was out of the norm probably 5 years.

Nac
 

Hey Yukon,

Great post. What is the outlook for hiring....if any?

I think they will be hiring two more FO. Probably in the next month or two. We are no longer running the LRD-ELP-YIP-LRD. Management is actively searching for a ACMI contract for the 300.

So how much flying does NAC still do in alaska? and what with, just the 737?

Thread bump...

Their website says that they are actively collecting resumes... Any idea when they may hire? Any updates on QOL and or schedule. It lists starting hourly on the website. I live in ANC. Thanks guys.

JG

Any latest
 

Says they are securing, trying anyway, a new contract this year? Maybe some big growth?