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Old 08-31-2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lindy View Post
If you are working at a position with FedEx with "normal" hours you could use your time to finish up the 4-year degree. FedEx offers some type of tuition assistance (but I do not know the details, maybe someone else on the board can assist???) to employees.

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don't quote me on this, but I believe the education benefit is up to $3000.00/calendar year - tuition reimbursement (you pay up front, then file for reimbursement after the class is over) if you get C or higher in the class - doing coursework at a FedEx Express-approved school.

I believe the $3000.00 would also include fees associated with the classes, but not books.

This is the deal for "permanent part-time" FedEx Express employees - don't know about any of the others, but probably the same deal applies to all FedEx Express "permanent" status employees (excluding pilots) - pilots have their own separate education benefits outlined in the pilot benefits book.
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DC8DRIVER,

I posted this on another forum a couple of years ago (May, 2006), so my info is a tad dated...Things change, but I believe most of this is still accurate. Feel free to PM me if you have other questions.

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I did what you're inquiring about. A little background (sorry in advance for the long post)...

Retired USAF. UAL for 1 1/2 years, furloughed. Consulting work while trying to get back to a flying job. After contacting my USAF friends at FedEx, I decided Purple & Orange was the way to go.

Mid 2004, FedEx would NOT interview furloughed folks (other than US Air on a case by case basis). My sponsor suggested throwing boxes for a period of time (it varies, more on this to follow) and get on board as an internal hire.

Policies change and FedEx is interviewing furloughed folks on a case by case basis. The advantage to being an internal hire is that if you are qualified for a given position and FedEx is hiring into that position, you are guaranteed the interview (provided your record at FedEx to that point is clean).

I applied and was hired as a courier. A better choice for me (more on this later) then being a handler. 7 months later I was called for the interview. 1 month later I recieved the "You're Hired" call. The system works. Some things to consider...

I remained a courier for 4 more months after being hired. FedEx policy states that you stay in a given job for a minumum of 1 year prior to internally switching positions. This was an easy 4 months, as I knew a large carrot resided at the other end of the tunnel.

Again, in my opinion, being a courier is less routine than tossing boxes (handler) at the airport or local station. If you have other employment or education issues to tend to, being a handler might be a better fit.

Be careful of the following if you take any of these positions...You WILL sign a letter of commitment (LOC) to that particular station/airport. This committment is usually longer than the 1 year FedEx corporate policy (i.e. 18 months, 24 months, etc). While all these commitment time frames are waiverable, the 1 year corporate policy is not typically waived. The station/airport LOC is waiverable, but is at the discretion of your local manager. Get this ironed out prior to signing on the dotted line. I was very up-front with the manager that hired me and when I was hired to fly, there were no surprises/hard feelings. As a matter of fact, I had a great relationship with my co-workers and supervisors and they were all genuinely very happy for me.

During my flying interview process, I received many compliments/thanks for having been a courier. You certainly gain insight to a side of the company that most of our pilot brethren never see. Plus, I dropped 20 pounds running around as a courier! Stay positive and it is an enjoyable experience.

I couldn't be happier with my career choice. Great company, great group of professional aviators.

Hope this helps.

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DC8Driver,

I was a handler, shuttle driver and courier before I came to the line. This was also the "old Fedex", not the rainbow coalition we have now. The company will consider PERMANENT full and part time employees for internal postings. If you're casual or temporary then you're SOL.
Another consideration, you'll have to be released by the station to go to class. In my case it took two weeks.

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Old 08-31-2008, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER View Post
And last, is a two year aviation degree a no-go/deal breaker?
ABSOLUTELY a 'deal breaker' ! Give up all hope

I am REALLY sorry to take that tone, but it seems to me that a 13 year F/O 'in the industry' would know better than to even post here, asking this question.

Sorry, I guess I am basing this on that fact that I assumed it was 'common knowledge' that ALL the 'majors' -and other good places to work, ABSOLUTELY required the 4 year degree from 'an accredited institution' to even be considered for an interview.

I was way 'over qualified', pilot-wise, but they weren't hiring at the time. Was hired as a Courier van driver in my home town, leading up to a pilot job offer -and all but two in my subsequent new hire pilot class also had an 'employee number' of one sort or another -so, internal hiring works. Has since the beginning of time.

BUT, there are some basic minimums the applicant must make. As long as I can remember, the BA or BS has been one of them.

As Tony says, you will have to work as a 'Permanent' at FedEx Express somewhere, at least a year under current rules, so find an accredited institution which will give you two semester's credit for 'life's experience' and enroll for a year of actual courses . . and by the time your 'commitment' is up, you will magically have the degree, be finished with your 'commitment' . . have a GREAT recommendation from your supervisor . . and we will be hiring. .and you are sitting there with the 'inside edge' . . . . be optimistic.

Just remember; you are probably W A A A Y more qualified and intelligent (you're an aviator, right?) than the guy who hires and/or supervises you . . DON'T EVEN let him know that!

Remember THIS - it will serve you well: . ."yassa . .massa . .I chops yo cotton" . .Fred wants to hear this too. . . once you get down on the Mempho Plantation.

Another thing. You are going to need to 'stay current' during that period, too!

Aren't you glad you asked

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Old 08-31-2008, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ABK MAN View Post
ERAU has many extended campuses scattered around the country in addition to offerring many courses online. A bit expensive, but it is quick and fits nicely with the part-time hours and tuition reimbursement, it worked for me . . .
........he said the schools had to be accredited!!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.)

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Old 08-31-2008, 10:01 PM
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Thanks for the good info, guys. Looks like I've got some options and some hoops to jump through.

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Originally Posted by W0XOFF View Post
ABSOLUTELY a 'deal breaker' ! Give up all hope

I am REALLY sorry to take that tone, but it seems to me that a 13 year F/O 'in the industry' would know better than to even post here, asking this question.

Sorry, I guess I am basing this on that fact that I assumed it was 'common knowledge' that ALL the 'majors' -and other good places to work, ABSOLUTELY required the 4 year degree from 'an accredited institution' to even be considered for an interview.

I was way 'over qualified', pilot-wise, but they weren't hiring at the time. Was hired as a Courier van driver in my home town, leading up to a pilot job offer -and all but two in my subsequent new hire pilot class also had an 'employee number' of one sort or another -so, internal hiring works. Has since the beginning of time.

BUT, there are some basic minimums the applicant must make. As long as I can remember, the BA or BS has been one of them.

As Tony says, you will have to work as a 'Permanent' at FedEx Express somewhere, at least a year under current rules, so find an accredited institution which will give you two semester's credit for 'life's experience' and enroll for a year of actual courses . . and by the time your 'commitment' is up, you will magically have the degree, be finished with your 'commitment' . . have a GREAT recommendation from your supervisor . . and we will be hiring. .and you are sitting there with the 'inside edge' . . . . be optimistic.

Just remember; you are probably W A A A Y more qualified and intelligent (you're an aviator, right?) than the guy who hires and/or supervises you . . DON'T EVEN let him know that!

Remember THIS - it will serve you well: . ."yassa . .massa . .I chops yo cotton" . .Fred wants to hear this too. . . once you get down on the Mempho Plantation.

Another thing. You are going to need to 'stay current' during that period, too!

Aren't you glad you asked

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U R Harsh,
Just for your future Harsh rants <g>, UPS still hires people to be pilots without a college degree if your experience is commensurate. Though rare, it still isn't a deal breaker. I only jumped in because you gave me the shot by asserting "ALL the 'majors' -and other good places to work, ABSOLUTELY required the 4 year degree from 'an accredited institution' to even be considered for an interview." Unless of course you consider UPS to fall outside this criteria
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:49 AM
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You done yet?






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I finished up a little over a month ago, very happy to be done with that. I took about a week off from school, got bored quickly, and am now persuing my PPL. A lot more fun and a lot more expensive . . .
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Originally Posted by bustinmins View Post
........he said the schools had to be accredited!!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.)
This coming from a guy who got a degree in Louisana ? ? ?
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