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FedExBusBoy 09-14-2008 08:28 PM

FDX awarded Govt. contract
 
Memphis Daily News - FedEx, Team Members Awarded Govt. Contract

FedEx, Team Members Awarded Govt. Contract

The United States Transportation Command (USTRANSCOM) has awarded a $1.37 billion contract to FedEx Corp. and its team for international airlift services. The team is a consortium that also includes Air Transport, Atlas Air, Northwest Airlines, Omni Air International, Polar Air Cargo Worldwide and Tradewinds Airlines.

The contract guarantees that FedEx will receive a minimum of $150,730,792.92.

The contract is for services, which will include short- and long-range transport of Department of Defense passengers and cargo.

The mission of USTRANSCOM is to provide air, land and sea transportation for the Department of Defense.

The work under this agreement will be undertaken at FedEx hubs and the hubs of team members around the world, and is expected to be completed by September 2009, according to USTRANSCOM Office of Legislative Affairs.

FedEx competed among 30 proposals for this contract.

W0XOFF 09-14-2008 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by FedExBusBoy (Post 461695)
Memphis Daily News - FedEx, Team Members Awarded Govt. Contract

The contract guarantees that FedEx will receive a minimum of $150,730,792.92.

SO. . when the he!! are the dipsticks on the Board of Directors going to authorize the LONG overdue stock split ! ? ! ?

It has been about 1999 (FDX - FedEx Corporation - Google Finance) -click on 'max' . . . since the last one - and the historic prices are WELL above what it was at each and every former level at a split.

TAKE CARE of your shareholders !!

TheBaron 09-14-2008 09:10 PM

That's nice, and don't get me wrong because everything helps now days, but that represents less than .5% or our annual revenue.

Whale Pilot 09-14-2008 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by W0XOFF (Post 461704)
SO. . when the he!! are the dipsticks on the Board of Directors going to authorize the LONG overdue stock split ! ? ! ?

It has been about 1999 (FDX - FedEx Corporation - Google Finance) -click on 'max' . . . since the last one - and the historic prices are WELL above what it was at each and every former level at a split.

TAKE CARE of your shareholders !!

W0X0FF,

I am sorry but I see no advantage of doing this. See below:

Advantages of Stock Splits
Lower prices per share can result in greater liquidity – stocks are easier to sell at lower prices and there is less of a bid/ask spread. This is especially true for stocks that are priced in the hundreds of dollars – small investors view them as out of their budget and the high bid/ask spreads (the difference between buying and selling prices) can put off bigger investors.

Other advantages of stock splits have to do with investor psychology. A split is usually seen as a bullish indicator – stock prices are increasing and the company is doing well financially. There is usually a short-term rally around a stock which splits, but the market tends to normalize after a short period.

Disadvantages of Stock Splits
On the downside, stock splits may cause investors to expect more about how the company performs. If these expectations are not met investor confidence may be shaken and the result could be a drop in share prices.

The bottom line is a stock split does nothing to affect the worth or performance of a company. It may be nice to own more shares, but in the end your 2 five-dollar bills are still worth the same as your ten-dollar bill.


Whale...

pilot141 09-15-2008 12:05 AM

Gotta agree with Whale here...

I could see a split if the stock was rocketing above $100 with no end in sight - that three-digit price seems to be a psychological barrier for many investors. Of course, that's not always true - witness Google and Berkshire Hathaway.

But for a huge, established company like FedEx - a stock split in this climate could be seen as an artificial attempt to create a positive outlook on the stock.

Bottom line - a split will occur when the company value increases enough to push the stock well above the $100 mark and keep it there. Even then, it's not guaranteed, and it does nothing for the shareholders - dividends are diluted in direct proportion to the split and your overall share value remains the same.

kc10/c130 09-15-2008 05:18 AM

Paying attention to your stockholders and their daily rants is akin to your children... listen but remember that you are the adult. Sorry W0XOFF you're wrong on this one.

MaydayMark 09-15-2008 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 459493)
I'm sure that if the BOD of this major corporation knew that WOXOFF was recommending a split that they would almost certainly do that. Have you contacted them with your advice personally or do you just expect them to read it here? LMAO!

Ditto ... :eek::eek::eek:

Overnitefr8 09-15-2008 08:13 AM

As Whale's post says, stock splits are stictly psychological. You don't get anymore money from them.

W0XOFF 09-15-2008 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Overnitefr8 (Post 461871)
As Whale's post says, stock splits are stictly psychological. You don't get anymore money from them.

As my dear, sainted mammy once told me: 'Don't ever listen to . .or take financial advice from a pilot. They are mostly all blithering idiots when it comes to money sense.'

Mammy was nearly always right . .and you dolts prove her point.

Glad I didn't listen to any of the Wall Street Journal reading crew force when I went into hock for twice my annual F/O salary back then to buy those 1500 shares at the 'employee IPO' price of $22/share. Yup . . 'stock splits are strictly psychological' . . what a dipstick.

If you listened to the large waterlogged mammal -and the dope above, you would have nada, instead of the (after 4 'splits') 24,000 (+ more purchased on the 'Employee Stock Purchase Plan') shares -at the $90.50 it might close at today Fedex Corp (FDX) - Stock chart, Index chart - MSN Money

If you got a $10 stock that splits you DO NOT have just 2 $5 shares! You have a stock priced now in the range of a lot more people who were reticent to buy it at the higher price. All of a sudden, your 2 $5 shares are worth . . $20 . . $40 . . more . . due to market forces.

It isn't just the Whale who's all wet. I have the nice retirement portfolio to prove it. Oh . .yeah . . that crappy 500 shares of Apple stock I bought at about $13 a share has split twice . . yep . . 'splits' are just a figment of the imagination.

JethroFDX 09-15-2008 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by TheBaron (Post 461718)
That's nice, and don't get me wrong because everything helps now days, but that represents less than .5% or our annual revenue.

Hey, that is great news.

I'll take that .5% in small bills please.:cool:

BOYCAPTAIN 09-15-2008 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by W0XOFF (Post 462010)
As my dear, sainted mammy once told me: 'Don't ever listen to . .or take financial advice from a pilot. They are mostly all blithering idiots when it comes to money sense.'

Mammy was nearly always right . .and you dolts prove her point.

Glad I didn't listen to any of the Wall Street Journal reading crew force when I went into hock for twice my annual F/O salary back then to buy those 1500 shares at the 'employee IPO' price of $22/share. Yup . . 'stock splits are strictly psychological' . . what a dipstick.

If you listened to the large waterlogged mammal -and the dope above, you would have nada, instead of the (after 4 'splits') 24,000 (+ more purchased on the 'Employee Stock Purchase Plan') shares -at the $90.50 it might close at today Fedex Corp (FDX) - Stock chart, Index chart - MSN Money

If you got a $10 stock that splits you DO NOT have just 2 $5 shares! You have a stock priced now in the range of a lot more people who were reticent to buy it at the higher price. All of a sudden, your 2 $5 shares are worth . . $20 . . $40 . . more . . due to market forces.

It isn't just the Whale who's all wet. I have the nice retirement portfolio to prove it. Oh . .yeah . . that crappy 500 shares of Apple stock I bought at about $13 a share has split twice . . yep . . 'splits' are just a figment of the imagination.

u stole my thunder....us millionares should have some coffee some time!;)

kronan 09-15-2008 03:29 PM

I take all my advice from Al Czervik,

can I be a millionaire if I've spent over a million dollars?

Daniel Larusso 09-15-2008 04:07 PM

What exactly does the fact that splitting a stock doesn't change shareholder equity have to do with making a good investment decision?

Trash Hauler 1 09-15-2008 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by FedExBusBoy (Post 461695)
Memphis Daily News - FedEx, Team Members Awarded Govt. Contract

FedEx, Team Members Awarded Govt. Contract

The United States Transportation Command (USTRANSCOM) has awarded a $1.37 billion contract to FedEx Corp. and its team for international airlift services. The team is a consortium that also includes Air Transport, Atlas Air, Northwest Airlines, Omni Air International, Polar Air Cargo Worldwide and Tradewinds Airlines.

The contract guarantees that FedEx will receive a minimum of $150,730,792.92.

The contract is for services, which will include short- and long-range transport of Department of Defense passengers and cargo.

The mission of USTRANSCOM is to provide air, land and sea transportation for the Department of Defense.

The work under this agreement will be undertaken at FedEx hubs and the hubs of team members around the world, and is expected to be completed by September 2009, according to USTRANSCOM Office of Legislative Affairs.

FedEx competed among 30 proposals for this contract.

What everyone is missing is that these contracts are issued on a regular basis based on each company's participation in the CRAF. Its not like FedEx or UPS or anyone has been awarded these contracts based on anything special. Depending on the cycle, they may be awarded quarterly, semi-annually or annually. Probably, Omni will fly most of this and FedEx will receive money from Omni for it. No need to to get excited

DYNASTY HVY 09-15-2008 04:45 PM

Too bad this deal did,nt go through before ATA went tango uniform.:rolleyes:

TheBaron 09-15-2008 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 462139)
Too bad this deal did,nt go through before ATA went tango uniform.:rolleyes:

How so?

:confused:

Wasn't ATA on the FedEx team under a similar contract when they went under?

W0XOFF 09-15-2008 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 462110)
I take all my advice from Al Czervik,

can I be a millionaire if I've spent over a million dollars?

Ironically enough it was MY Uncle Al who educated me on how airline pilots get to be 'millionaires'.

'They're the ones who start out with about a $10 million family fortune. After all the typical bad pilot moves, they are only 'millionaires'.

W0XOFF 09-15-2008 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by BOYCAPTAIN (Post 462017)
u stole my thunder....us millionares should have some coffee some time!;)

You're buying . .right?

Just don't try to get me into a truck lease tax dodge . . or apartments in New Awlins.

Busboy 09-16-2008 06:24 AM

Too bad Lehman Bros. didn't split their stock a couple weeks ago.

W0XOFF 09-16-2008 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 462397)
Too bad Lehman Bros. didn't split their stock a couple weeks ago.

Spoken like a true 'pilot' financial wizard:D

NOW that it is near the bottom is the time it should split! The bottom feeders would be in a frenzy. :eek:

You know . . 'buy low . . sell high'

Of course . . I have not been closely following that particular debacle . . there are too many other good bargains out there . .without the 'notoriety'

Busboy 09-16-2008 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by W0XOFF (Post 462457)
Spoken like a true 'pilot' financial wizard:D

NOW that it is near the bottom is the time it should split! The bottom feeders would be in a frenzy. :eek:

You know . . 'buy low . . sell high'

Of course . . I have not been closely following that particular debacle . . there are too many other good bargains out there . .without the 'notoriety'

Financial wizard? Well, gosh, thanks. But, I wouldn't go that far. My current plan is to just keep investing until it's all gone.

DYNASTY HVY 09-16-2008 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by TheBaron (Post 462226)
How so?

:confused:

Wasn't ATA on the FedEx team under a similar contract when they went under?

Yep but this might have given them an extra boost.

fdx727pilot 09-16-2008 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 462767)
Yep but this might have given them an extra boost.

Wasn't the fact that Fedex booted them off the last contract a primary cause of ATA filing Chpt 11?

CactusCrew 09-16-2008 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by fdx727pilot (Post 462923)
Wasn't the fact that Fedex booted them off the last contract a primary cause of ATA filing Chpt 11?


Might have been. But ATA screwed the pooch long before that.

If ATA would have merged with America West instead of that SWA 'code share' deal ... there MIGHT have been a future.

:confused:

but what exactly does ATA have to do with the FDX govt contract ?

;)

dc10pilot 09-18-2008 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 462767)
Yep but this might have given them an extra boost.

no, if ATA was still around they would have had to switch to the other team with World, North American and split the awarded share of that teams DOD contract - they were supposed to move October 1st - new fiscal year for the federal government

Airhoss 09-18-2008 06:20 AM

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;)

W0XOFF 09-18-2008 12:18 PM

This is called the 401-K(eg) Plan.
 

Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 463913)
Hey guys,

I've got a great position on some llamas and a couple of jajoba bean farms you can use your money from your optioneer accounts to invest in these exciting financial vehicles. Just send your certified funds or cash to Airline pilot investments INC.. Pilots helping pilots throw away money on "How could you possibly lose money on this?" scams since the Wright brothers first turned a prop!!
;)

Speaking of good investment advice for pilots:

This is called the 401-K(eg) Plan.

Retirement plans compared...


If you had purchased $1000.00 of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00.


With Enron, you would have $16.50 left of the original $1000.


With WorldCom, you would have less than $5.00 left.


If you had purchased $1000.00 of Delta Air Lines stock you would have $49.00 left.


If you had purchased United Airlines, you would have nothing left.


But, if you had purchased $1000.00 worth of beer one year ago, drank all the beer, then turned in the cans for recycling, you would have $214.00.

Based on the above, the best current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.


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