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Old 09-26-2008, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE View Post
That's almost funny....
I'm happy that I can bring a chuckle to some.

But until they shut off the lights, I'm not gonna stop fighting for what I think is right. Even if that means sidling up to political pukes. I will not just roll over and punch out. Sorry, can't do that.

To the others that have expressed their support, even if just to say "good luck" (and mean it) I and the rest of our two groups effected by this thank you.
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I suggest you use up all your sick time and vacation. I also suggest you get prepared to enter the job market again. That way, when the deal gets finalized you will be one of the ones ready to move on if you haven't already. I guarantee many pilots will do nothing, so don't be like them. Rumors are that UPS will be hiring, so make that your goal.
In this respect you are spot on correct K9. As for myself, I'm prepared to pimp myself for the next job opportunity. But I know for a fact that it won't be at UPS. The UPS "spokesman" you quote in your previous post (his name is Norman Black) stated in June "that no pilots are coming over in this deal". And we all know UPS's record on hiring pilots from companies that it has bought. We do appreciate Capt Millers request to at least offer pref. interviews, but I understand that request fell on deaf ears.
I am going to put my stuff in when the next window opens and I hope that I get to the sim ride before they pull the plug. As a new hire with DHLAirways 13 years ago, we used your DC-8 sim. You guys have a top notch school house and wouldn't mind seeing it again.

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:55 PM
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Thanks Biggs, it's nice to see somebody that's not salivating over our jobs or saying we were doomed anyway. I don't feel that way toward the Gemini guys.
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We all know it doesn't look good for the Astar/ABX pilots and certainly they should plan for the worst. But its not over yet. DHL and UPS obviously want this deal to go through. And they claim if this deal doesnt go through DHL will leave the US and even more people will lose their jobs. Ok, thats possible but I am not accepting that as a fact. Thats a great argument for them to justify the deal. If DHL is willing to spend a billion dollars a year to maintain a presence in the US than it seems like they may consider other alternatives if that doesn't go through.

I have very little trust in what the politicians say but I have even less trust in what the DHL executives say.

Good luck to the 10,000 American workers in Wilmington.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets View Post
As a new hire with DHLAirways 13 years ago, we used your DC-8 sim. You guys have a top notch school house and wouldn't mind seeing it again.

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You're talking about the building put together with a series of trailers?

TOP-NOTCH??? hahahah
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So to the DHL guys that may loose thier jobs and may be the first ones hired in overseas carriers,
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but foreign carriers prefer people with experiences in aircraft not built 40 years ago. They really like those who have time in the types in which they operate. Can you think of anyone over in Asia/Middle East flying DC-8s or outdated B727s?

They are not as marketable as they may believe.

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Old 09-26-2008, 10:27 PM
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"They are not as marketable as they may believe."

Dude,
No need for that, I didn't see anyone brag about their jurasic jet time.
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"They are not as marketable as they may believe."

Dude,
No need for that, I didn't see anyone brag about their jurasic jet time.

You are correct, so I will do it for them.


I have flown the first and second generation jets and currently do fly the a Glass cockpit, FMC airplane.
I would rather have an experienced pilot with thousands of hours in the older jet who has transitioned to the current navigation and flight management systems then some one who has started with the FMC environment. Why, because all the pilot who came out of the earlier generation jet has to learn is how to put all of that accumulated experience in to the FMC, this can be easily taught. The experience and knowledge that they have takes years to accumulate.

If I was making the hiring choice and an RJ pilot and a 727/Dc-8 pilot where standing in line I would take the 727/DC-8 pilot.

Best to the Astar/ ABX/DHL pilots.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by A Pilot View Post
"They are not as marketable as they may believe."

Dude,
No need for that, I didn't see anyone brag about their jurasic jet time.
You are correct, no one bragged about it. But the other guy did say these ABX/ASTAR will be the first to get hired overseas.

I think not. Just browsing through the contract companies' website and you will see that most want time in type on equipments like 777/744, etc..
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot View Post
currently do fly the a Glass cockpit, FMC airplane.
The 757/767 has an FMC, I'll give you that. But I wouldn't call those things "glass".

Don't you have large amounts of round dials in front of you? Of course there's nothing wrong with round dials....unless one calls it "glass cockpit".
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