UPS: The F word
09-29-2008, 09:45 PM
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Leftof longitudinal
Posts: 1,899
Originally Posted by FR8K9
An open time ban will not prevent furloughs. More flying will prevent it though.
I fully expect to lose my seat in 2009, and I am preparing financially. We are saving every penny and we are clipping coupons. We are also paying off as much debt as possible, because I have no doubt that I will be an FO again in 2009.
I don't want to get political, but a McCain presidency is likely, and this will not bode well for airline pilots or any union member for that matter.
Times look very bleak to me, indeed.
I fully expect to lose my seat in 2009, and I am preparing financially. We are saving every penny and we are clipping coupons. We are also paying off as much debt as possible, because I have no doubt that I will be an FO again in 2009.
I don't want to get political, but a McCain presidency is likely, and this will not bode well for airline pilots or any union member for that matter.
Times look very bleak to me, indeed.
09-29-2008, 10:42 PM
#43
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Leftof longitudinal
Posts: 1,899
Originally Posted by FR8K9
No. Why would you infer that from what I posted?
Is it that you don't agree with something else I said? Also, what is with the eye-roll?
Is it that you don't agree with something else I said? Also, what is with the eye-roll?
You mentioned preparing for the roll back to F/O. (Me too since barely holding my seat in domicile)
I live like a more junior F/O though and will go right seat since don't want to commute. Didn't mean to mock, not really my style if you look at my posting history. Figured it as more TIC humour than offensive sarcasm. No offense intended.
Personally, don't care unless we announce a furlough.
09-29-2008, 11:04 PM
#44
Retired Doug herder
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Former DC8 73 Capt DHLAirways/Astar. Retired
Posts: 424
Originally Posted by FR8K9
I don't put the blame on UPS at all. If we furlough, I blame worthless politicians pandering for votes and I blame ALPA for the AGE 65 rule change and also for fighting the UPS/DHL deal.
JMHO.
JMHO.
I'm sure the 600 pilots at ABX and the other 8,000 people that stand to lose their jobs most likely feel the way I do about it as well.
09-29-2008, 11:14 PM
#45
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,333
Originally Posted by SLPII
...You almost never hear anyone talking about the F word in the cockpit. Although nothing has happened yet, UPS is still "stable". But when you're the bottom 10%, there's cause to be concerned.
IF it happens, we'll deal with it then, until then all you can do is pay off your credit cards, save up some money and look for a back-up job - I'm doing all that just in case but I'd be lying if I said I'm losing any sleep over this...
09-29-2008, 11:17 PM
#46
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Posts: 245
Originally Posted by hvydriver
You blame ALPA for fighting the UPS/DHL deal? Why would they not pray tell, when they have over 500 pilots at Astar? If the deal falls through, I'm sorry if you get bumped down to FO, but I'd like to keep my 20 year career right here if it's all the same to you. I'm sure the 600 pilots at ABX and the other 8,000 people that stand to lose their jobs most likely feel the way I do about it as well.
I'm sure the 600 pilots at ABX and the other 8,000 people that stand to lose their jobs most likely feel the way I do about it as well.Please don't turn this thread into another DHL=Adoft Hitler with UPS as the accomplice debate.
Sick of that.
09-29-2008, 11:21 PM
#47
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Posts: 245
Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE
- why worry when there's nothing you can do about it?
As for talks in the cockpit of the impending diaster, I guess we up here in Siberia are far enough from Mecca that the worries haven't hit us too hard yet!
Last edited by SLPII; 09-29-2008 at 11:27 PM.
09-29-2008, 11:23 PM
#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,333
Originally Posted by FR8K9
An open time ban will not prevent furloughs. More flying will prevent it though.
I fully expect to lose my seat in 2009, and I am preparing financially. We are saving every penny and we are clipping coupons. We are also paying off as much debt as possible, because I have no doubt that I will be an FO again in 2009.
I don't want to get political, but a McCain presidency is likely, and this will not bode well for airline pilots or any union member for that matter.
Times look very bleak to me, indeed.
I fully expect to lose my seat in 2009, and I am preparing financially. We are saving every penny and we are clipping coupons. We are also paying off as much debt as possible, because I have no doubt that I will be an FO again in 2009.
I don't want to get political, but a McCain presidency is likely, and this will not bode well for airline pilots or any union member for that matter.
Times look very bleak to me, indeed.
...but hey, there's always more open time, right?
««« that's a humorous smiley Ps I don't want to debate the candidates - I just had to point out that not everyone agrees with your view...
Last edited by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE; 09-29-2008 at 11:36 PM.
09-29-2008, 11:24 PM
#49
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,333
Originally Posted by SLPII
There's nothing you can do to prevent it from happening. But there's a lot you can do to keep your family from starving. And the process for that should have started yesterday if you are anywhere near the bottom.
As for talks in the cockpit of the impending diaster, I guess we up here in Siberia are far enough from Mecca that the worries haven't hit us too hard yet!
As for talks in the cockpit of the impending diaster, I guess we up here in Siberia are far enough from Mecca that the worries haven't hit us too hard yet!
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
B727DRVR
Cargo
14
08-22-2008 02:23 PM
