FDX- stop sending frivolous Crew Notifications
 

I am on reserve and its freaking me out.:p

Quit checking vips.

I don't know, I kind of liked this one:

"You have been removed from trip xxx beginning xxOCT08
due to equipment change.

Notification posted 02OCT08 2353z. You received it 03OCT08 0021z."


They do seem to be pumping them up though.

FJ

My personal favorite:

You will be unqualified as of 20OCT08 due to the expiration of your Recency
of Experience, in other words, you will lack 3 landings in the last 90 days.
You are required to make reasonable efforts to maintain qualification. If
you are a reserve, consider using First Fly as part of your plan to maintain
qualification. If you lose qualification due to lack of landings, all trips
and/or R-Days which are scheduled to show within 48 hours of the above date
will be dropped without pay. That time will be eligible for make-up; however,
you will only be compensated for days spent requalifying if you made
reasonable efforts to maintain qualification.

How else would I know (x3) that I need to use a current seniority list on pilot.fedex.com or in the current bidback? :eek:

ALWAYS check the CALENDAR first!

a true statement.

but if you think about it, notification after notification, you start to get the same feeling you get when you read DFW notams day after day... all 600 of them.

Remember when notifications were something you paid attention to?

anyone can get access to notifications.. your receipts are due... you have credit card charge.. your uniform allowance is expiring, you need to buy a hat... at what point do they start using them for important things again? :confused:

I think we need break out the difference between "scheduling notification" and "admin notifications"

You can check your calendar first, but consider yourself "notified" if there is a trip there. They can tell that you logged on and looked up your calendar, even though you didn't click on "crew notifications."

Where does this come from? I know schedules can tell if you're logged on but I don't believe they can tell what pages you've viewed and which ones you haven 't. Additionally, there's nothing in the contract that says viewing your calendar is considered notification.

Has anyone ever been told they were considered notified because they viewed their calendar or is this just another urban myth?

I have watched a friend with "scheduler level" Vips access pull up my employee number and show me the pages I visited on my last Vips access. They were all listed by their web address, i.e. Webcal for Calender, webdd for open time, etc. It's no myth!

It's True
 

YES! A matter of fact I had to go see an ACP because of such a situation. They know when you logon and can trace every page you go to while logged on. If called on the carpet, be honest about it and take your lumps. Luckily, the ACP was a good guy and it turned out okay, but it certainly opened my eyes.

Not necessarily true.


Under the scheduling FAQ that use to be the website, but since been taken down by the lawyers. It said something like 'notification occurs when called and assigned by a scheduler, or clicking the acknowledge button on a crew notification'

But they can definitely see every keystroke, button click you do the company system.

So here's my new idea. I'm going to start a consulting business. A very specialized business that only deals with finding out if a FedEx pilot, has been assigned a trip. Here's how it will work... You call me and I check your calendar to see if they've actually had the nerve to make you work for the money that they pay you. If indeed they've assigned you a trip, I immediately call you back with the appropriate information. Then, once a month, I bill you, say a couple of bucks, for the convenience of having someone else check your schedule for you, and thereby providing you with a plausible deniability. Yeah, that's what I'll do from now on.:rolleyes:

JJ

I think the big question here is whether or not skeds has to call you if you simply looked at your trip vs. clicking on the notification. Until I get a "you are now notified" of the trip, then I'm not. If I haven't clicked on the link, then doesn't crew skeds have to call me if I'm on reserve? Ignore the call, then sure, you're in trouble. Otherwise, I don't see what the big deal is.

I think that's a great plan for your retirement!

I'm sorry, but this does NOT constitute trip notification! (I know I've heard that somewhere before, but can't seem to remember where. :rolleyes:)

I can show an example of why you want to check your calendar first and NOT click Crew Notification!

Last Dec, 5 days prior to Christmas, my B727 SO crashpad roomie, on B reserve with 5 days left, had just told me that he appeared clear and free for the day as all trips had been assigned and he was number 5 on the list. It was about 1pm.

An hour or so later he was p!ssed off as could be. He rechecked VIPS and saw a Crew Notification and clicked it. He had been assigned a 5 day trip that had a midnightish show time, 3 legged it and ended up in Portland, ME at about 930a. It returned to MEM at midnight Christmas Eve. Not a great place to spend Christmas for a commuter.

By clicking the Crew Notification and officially being notified, a legal rest period then ensued and the assigned trip was his. If he had NOT clicked on the trip, then the onus was on CRS to call him and if THEY forgot (a possibility) or were late, then that trip may not have been legal for him to accept per the contract and reserve assignment.

Of course his sponsor, cough, cough RT, cough cough, let him down by telling him previously that if you have a Crew Notification that you can do nothing in VIPS until you accept it. :rolleyes: I fixed him! :D

Not true, your bed partner likes to blame me for everything. Glad to see you two are still together. :eek:
Fixed him? Doctor FR8Dog

First, we don't even share a room! Second, he does blame you for a lot of stuff. Fortunately, I only believe about 75% of it! ;)

Perhaps he misunderstood what his sponsor was telling him. It wouldn't be the first time. Anyway, I think what was meant was that once you're in vips, and you click on "Crew Notification", from that point forward, vips will not allow you to perform any other operation, without first acknowledging the crew notification. At least that's my take on it.

JJ

He is not the first I have met that was misinformed or misunderstood. I have re-educated more than a handful of FOs and even a few Capts about this!:confused:

Still in denial? It's OK man, we don't talk about your preferences behind your back, ......as far as you know! RT's cool with the "don't ask, don't tell" thing....relax.:D:p

Can the meet and greets, hire ratios need to radically change from the AF maj/col ratio so radically employed last number of years. Time for a new paradigm; and diverse group at FDX. Navy fighter guys excepted.

Hey, I thought RT told me that you might be rolling into the pad! Beers at Celtic Crossing on me when you do! :cool:

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Making Love on the ACP Forums
 

RT and Dog, obviously you have a room for your late night jackballing!!! Use it people, not the net!:D

That there is how you resurrect a 3 month old thread with a frivolous post just to chastise someone for making a frivolous post....