FDX MD11 Gouge Help
 

I go in a month to the Mad Dog, and wanted to get a few weeks of reading and study done prior.

Any one with any gouge recommendations, study tips, FMS Gouge, or how to access the FMS trainer on CMI, when your a commuter would be greatly appreciated.

I'm so excited about my 3 months in Memphis as a commuter...ugh, but that is the price of NOT living in Memphis...

Semper Gumby and thanks in advance!

Since you did not state what aircraft your coming from my first recommendation is to go in even on your days off and get all of your CMI done, complete, finished. This resets your clock and it is one less thing that after class each day you have to get done. Thust me you'll have plenty to do and to study. As far as reading the manual, well there are so many acnoyrms that will baffel your mind you will just get a headache. I would look at boldface and limitations and thats it. Limitations are not underlined as in other manuals, however you can quickly get a hold of another MD guy or instructor and they can point out which might be helpful to know for your oral,

If your coming from the DC-10 remember it's an electronic DC-10. All those checks that your second officer did are now done by the system controllers. Systems are pretty much the same as the 10. Do not get the attitude that if the the A/C is not doing what you want you can turn it all off and fly it like a 10. At least not in the training enviroment.

If your coming from the Bus, there are just a few differances in the FMS but you'll catch on very quickly.

If your coming from the 727 then at least you've been a Captain and that is one less thing to worry about.

Finally I've been through the Bus when it was AQP and the Mad Dog when it was not. Others will chim in I'm sure to offer you the most up-to-date gouge. I think our instructors are excellent with no real wankers that I know about. Its a big mountain to climb so just keep taking small bites and you will get thru it. About 3 months from the time you walk in the door. Good Luck I hope your junior to me............:cool:

And If you do come from the DC-10 don't even think for a moment that it will handle or you can do the things we did on the 10. That pig (MD11) handles like it was on control wheel stearing all day.

P.S. by the way the Mad Dog is the MD83

Yes. We fly the Mighty Dog.

Guys,

I came from the 10, after a brief tour of all 3 seats...

Thanks so far!

I'm putting windows on a Mac right now to do the CMI on the LMS system as a start.

Here's my advice - front-loading's good, but remember: this is a marathon, not a sprint. Don't get burned out before your first day of class.

The 10 is the perfect pre-school for the 11. Get the CMI done "for credit" before class, and then rest up.....

C'mon Huck! We call it the Mad Dog. Other carriers can call their MD's what they like.

Next thing you we will have to start wearing jackets and caps and acting in a respectable manner!;):D

Cheers,
Beertini

For what it's worth: when I started processing Magenta versus White on the FMA, everything got easier.

Best video game I ever played.......

Are CMI and LMI the same thing? What specifically am I allowed to start doing 30 days prior to class? Sounds like poor FlynLow might be stuck with a pig looking at a wristwatch (that's me...) for his FO...

Its all AQP now. (no pilot left behind) so your worries are few. Plus none of that stalls and falls or steep turns stuff.

Better yet, just logon from home and do it at home!;)

Not entirely true. You do steep turns on AST1 and stalls on AST3. Then you never see them again.

Anyway, pretty much what everyone said. Get the CMI/LMS done before class. Know your Phase ones and do the day one reading before the first day. There will plenty of gouge handed out by other students when you get there.

Don't try to learn every thing before you get there. You'll get discouraged because there's just too much info and you won't know what important and what's not. That what our job is.

Anyway, see you in a month.
Disco

I know after all this time its just supposed to be about time off and money, but I am getting excited about both the plane and the destinations...

I've met you before Disco...hope I get the chance to work with you again soon..

Holy crap I am getting old. I guess I didn't even realize you could do that. In any case CMI that is not airplane specific is the same stuff that you've been doing each and every year. Cat-3, De-icing, windshear, DG, farting issues, etc, etc, etc. Again you have to do this all over to reset your clock. Don't dwell on it trying to amass any kind of great knowledge. You just want to get that monkey off your back. So do CMI at home with a Jack n water. Some prefer neat.............:cool:

This may be of some help to you - especially after you have had some initial exposure to MD-11 aircraft systems.

www.md-11.org

Let me tell you Albie - the first time you stand 'em up at the end of Osaka's runway, blasting off at 630,500 pounds into the dark... it's better than ***......

That's a looooooong roll and slow climb into a black hole! VCL = 289! :D

If you're by yourself,...YES. Someone else in the room,...NO;)
Welcome to the MadDog!, aka; the Super Scud, the MD911, the Bull Frog :D

You're not doing it right.





(Beats the hell out of hub turns to Grand Forks though) :)

Let me get back to you on that one:)

Actually for a real thrill, you takeoff from Osaka with 20,000 pounds of ballast pallet, in an empty MD-11, on the way to Narita. By the end of the runway, you're almost at 10,000 feet. Now that's a wild ride.

Huck, perhaps you've actually discovered why the old guys like myself have decided to stick around. Could it be that they actually enjoy flying???

JJ

There's a few. And they are a joy to fly with. JJ I count you in that group, and I'm sorry you're still sidelined.

Would you agree, though, that there are also those who stick around purely for the money, due to greed and selfishness?

I flew with a guy last winter who has a twin-engine plane, a huge boat and houses in the northeast and the Carribean. He's been a widebody captain for 20 years. He's staying to 65 because, and I quote, "This is the best part-time job in the world!" He plans to max out his sick leave usage before he goes. Not much "love of flying" involved there.

Huck....brother....

Gotta admit, you sound a little jealous

you can access the LMS system on your mac you don't need to load windows to do it

Huck,

Thanks for your comments. Yeah, I loved to fly, and miss it. Not enough to come back to work and put up with all the crap that you guys are going through, but I am jealous when I look up at a passing jet. There were only two times in my entire flying career when I had wished I was on the ground and not in the air, as opposed to the reverse. Anyway, I agree with you that many guys have lost that love of flying, and not just the older guys. A real pity, as I would guess that the vast majority of us initially took up flying because we liked it. I'm sure some are sticking around for purely selfish reasons, or because they didn't plan their lives well; a lesson for you younger guys. But, if a guy is gaming the system, ie, staying till he has to leave, and gaming the system by judicious use of vacation/sick/etc, I can understand your disdain for that individual, but it is a reasonable approach, at least from his standpoint. I'm sure that if the company were to write a check for unused sick leave, that coupled with selling back the next years vacation, would be such a windfall, that most older guys would bail much sooner. Just my take, though.

JJ (WD)

I can't personally comment about how similar it is to the DC-10, since I never flew that one. But all the Capts in my class were DC-10 guys.

What I would suggest by observing them is to remember not to get too wrapped around the axle about accomplishing the same task using different procedures. Just play the game.
It may be an electronic DC-10, but the MD community wants you to learn it their way.
If you show up having learned all the phase 1s (definitely do that), note that there are "quotes" (things you're expected to say out loud) within the phase 1s. Only one guy in our class noticed this more than about 2 minutes prior to all of us taking the written phase 1 test. They do expect you to know what you have to say out loud. This caused great consternation in our class.
It may be death by acronym, but don't get too worried about that. The classroom instruction is excellent, and they'll teach you what you have to know to get through it.
They repeatedly will tell you, "you don't need to know that". If you really have a burning need to know something, they'll want you ask the question after class so you don't confuse others in your class. You're not expected to build the airplane.
As others have said, AQP is 'No pilot left behind'. I'm just glad they heard I was coming to the airplane and made it kinder and gentler for me. :D

There is a set of flash cards available from Kinko's/FedEx Office on Poplar in MEM that helped me greatly. On the first day of training, they will beat you about the head and shoulders that 'gouge=unupdated crap'. That may be, but the flash cards are a great tool to pull out of your bag on a trip to review. More than any other airplane I have flown, I have to review on a fairly regular basis...

Definitely have the LMS done prior to first day of class. For my puny brain, there were JUST enough hours in the day to get everything done not including all the hours of LMS.

Good luck!

Updated MD11 Gouge website
 

Greetings fellow MD11 Pilots-

My famous MD11Gouge.com website has been updated with GoDaddy software due to malicious activity by unknown parties with my old Apple program.

It has all the same PDF gouges are there but is not all that graphically appealing due to limits of the GoDaddy web design software. GoDaddy tells me it's a work in progress so you'll see updates along the way.

I still update these gouges and solicit your input. I can me reached at md11PROFer 'at' iCloud dot com

Fly safe, Brad Alberts
MD11 Capt FedEx Express