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Old 11-01-2008, 09:19 AM
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Ladies and Gents, (FDX)

An interesting phenomenon is taking place.

Despite the fact that the MEC Chairman asked FE to resign prior to bringing the issue before the MEC, some MEC members are telling themselves that they were a part of the process, because they got to vote on the acceptance of FE's resignation. Right. That is putting the cart before the horse. (There must be some pretty strong pressure being applied to get the story straight).

Case in point: Some MEC members said they begged FE not resign and come to Vegas to defend himself. (The way I see this: I am not surprised FE would take a pass on a trip to Vegas, to defend himself before a group with which he knows isn't driving the ship, with a Chairman who asked him to resign before presenting the issue to the MEC! So in all honesty, by not taking part in that type of Prerigged-rigged Kangaroo Court shows good judgment and political savvy to me),.........but back to the point, if some MEC members were hoping FE would come to Vegas (or phone in) and defend his job, this indicates to me that the whole 100% unanimity claim they are making is a bit weak and shoots major holes in many aspects of the reasoning for the firing in the first place? As I have said before, I am not going to get into the reasoning for the firing. In my view, it is a distraction of the real issue, which is the manner in which the resignation took place. The reasonable man theory would suggest that if the concerns of the MEC Chairman were so great, then certainly it seems reasonable for him to feel reasonably confident that he would enjoy at least a majority of support among the MEC? By doing it before hand, poisons the well and cast shadows unnecessarily on his decision and also pretty much destroys any chance of FE maintaining any sense of credibility. In fact, by doing it this way, lets face it, Dave pretty much assured the outcome. A closed door meeting seemed the more reasonable and prudent course of action to me and in the best interest of all concerned. In other words....why not just do it right in the first place?

So in reality, this seems more like a case of some MEC members trying to shift the responsibility for the decision to Fred himself, rather than take the responsibility on themselves, which is rightfully mandated via the C&B and Policy Manual. Perhaps putting it in a Halloween sense would be more apropos, You are accused of being a witch FE and we are going to drown you in water...if you are innocent, you will float.

PS...for what it is worth, some of the MEC members have indicated in hindsight that perhaps there may have been a better way. So as for the rewriting of history....please do not insult us further.

I have asked several MEC members and one officer this next, most important question. Based on this last MEC performance....how am I to believe that when you pick the next Neg. Chairman, it was done so....correctly? How can I be confident now, after this latest debacle that the MEC is driving the ship?

If you want credibility, stick to the process and do the jobs you were elected to do. If acting within that capacity, causes you have to protect that process, you are obligated to do so....no matter how hard.

So while we all chat about BOT programs and Parka's, IMHO, there is a much more serious problem at hand.

I urge you to call or write your Reps and don't fall for the "we didn't do it after that fact" spin. You elected them, they owe you an explanation.

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Old 11-01-2008, 10:25 AM
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One of the BIGGEST issues that I have with our MEC is the consensus voting crap.

I would much rather see a few NO votes than a unanimous YES. At least then, we would get some sense that somebody passed on the kool-aid for that meeting.

Consensus doesn't always demonstrate unity. Sometimes it just shows a lack of integrity and strength.
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Something is out of sorts here, you are giving too much credit to DWorthless. The MEC is compliant in this biz and he could not dictate his terms of surrender, could he?
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Originally Posted by AL E NEWMAN View Post
Something is out of sorts here, you are giving too much credit to DWorthless. The MEC is compliant in this biz and he could not dictate his terms of surrender, could he?
You've used the name "DWorthless" several times now.

Are you sure that you understand we're not talking about Duane Woerth - former prez of ALPA national?

DW @ FedEx is someone else - possibly worthless, as you evidently are trying to say, but doesn't actually have that in his last name.
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Originally Posted by AFW_MD11 View Post
You've used the name "DWorthless" several times now.

Are you sure that you understand we're not talking about Duane Woerth - former prez of ALPA national?

DW @ FedEx is someone else - possibly worthless, as you evidently are trying to say, but doesn't actually have that in his last name.
No its deliberate Obi Wan, and I could give a hot damnnnn that it ruffles some feathers.
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Originally Posted by AL E NEWMAN View Post
No its deliberate Obi Wan, and I could give a hot damnnnn that it ruffles some feathers.
Doesn't bother me.....but doesn't really make much sense either. but - whatever, dude.
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AFW,

I was confused as well, but your response made me laugh for some reason.....
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AFW,

I was confused as well, but your response made me laugh for some reason.....
Thanks for clarification, I'm not a FDX guy but I was confused why Duane Worthless (or whatever his real name was) was mentioned on a FDX thread since he came from NWA (I think?)... Makes more sense now...
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I've gotten two different stories from two different MEC members. I believe the one who was not my block rep. I have previously urged people to contact their reps for the real scoop, but I will say I was sorely disappointed in the response I got from my block rep. I would also like to know what DW's reasoning for removing FE from the position was. We can speculate, but until we know why, we're kind of spinning our wheels.
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Ahh the world of MEC politics, where candidates often run 'unopposed' once the competition realizes they don't have enough votes to win and pulls their name out of the hat and where simple resignations are rarely that in reality.
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