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Myboyblue 04-07-2006 12:37 PM

If the night flying gets to someone too much, can they solve the problem by bidding the noon to midnight reserve?

I'm guessing the noon to midnight reserve is mostly day flying, correct? reserve sucks but if night line flying is that bad then maybe day reserve isn't so bad.

RedeyeAV8r 04-07-2006 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Myboyblue
If the night flying gets to someone too much, can they solve the problem by bidding the noon to midnight reserve?
I'm guessing the noon to midnight reserve is mostly day flying, correct? reserve sucks but if night line flying is that bad then maybe day reserve isn't so bad.

We have an A and B reserve periods. These are periods of "On call availablity" i.e. sitting on the BEEPER and don't always dictate when you will actually fly..................Your chances of Day flying are certainly greater with B period but not guaranteed.

A you must be available Midnight to noon. B you must be available from Noon to Midnight.
Being available means you must be able to show in 1 hour (MEM based) once notified, or must be able to Show in 3 hours ANC or LAX based.

Crew skeds has figured little tricks and other little ways around this. This is your intial availablity only.
Once called out you could have been a Day reserve (B) and be assigned a trip that is a Day Deadhead but has a week of night Hubturns. With 18 hours advance notice they can still assign you into a night (early AM launch) or vice versa if you on on the A period and generally nobody from A usually complains about flying days.

captain_drew 04-07-2006 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Crew skeds has figured little tricks and other little ways around this.

Ain’t it the truth! They just keep getting smarter and smarter :rolleyes:

Getting back to being tired for Show Time ;)

What is the difference, flying in on the J/S to turn on a revenue leg . .OR . . living in Jonesboro . .or out at “The Lake” . . or Jackson and DRIVING in to MEM for Show Time? You’re ‘driving in’ .. make you a local Planet Bubba?

I got pretty P-Oed taking grief from some Bubbas . .when their Bubba-buddies were putting in the same (or more) travel time -under much more stressful (night driving with all the rednecks) conditions . . while I was cat-napping in from the coast on a DC-10 J/S:(

fecav8r 04-08-2006 05:24 PM

no, if you have no deadheads, you don't have a bank

fecav8r 04-08-2006 05:27 PM

jumpseating is controllable and documentable. driving is not

captain_drew 04-09-2006 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by fecav8r
jumpseating is controllable and documentable. driving is not


And . . . ..your POINT . . . . . .IS?

fecav8r 04-09-2006 06:01 PM

The company has a responsibilty to atleast have the apprearance of monitoring the crew rest times. You can do that with jumpseats. They can't with driving. Realistically, there is no difference. Legally there is.

FR8Hauler 04-09-2006 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by fecav8r
The company has a responsibilty to atleast have the apprearance of monitoring the crew rest times. You can do that with jumpseats. They can't with driving. Realistically, there is no difference. Legally there is.

Well we are the only company that does it. Why are you always siding with the company even on bogus issues like this? Do you realise there is no requirement by the FAA to call a JS as duty time. It is just another thing that FedEx can fire YOU on if you screw it up. I asked you before in another post. Are you really a FedEx pilot and are you a ALPA member? You have drank some serious purple koolaide!

fecav8r 04-10-2006 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by FR8Hauler
Well we are the only company that does it. Why are you always siding with the company even on bogus issues like this? Do you realise there is no requirement by the FAA to call a JS as duty time. It is just another thing that FedEx can fire YOU on if you screw it up. I asked you before in another post. Are you really a FedEx pilot and are you a ALPA member? You have drank some serious purple koolaide!


yeah, I'm a FedEx pilot and a member, and if you can tell me anyone who has been fired for this I'd sure like to know. The only thing the contract says about the jumpseat is that if you miss a flight for jumpseat reasons you are proteced by the "no harm no foul' rule depending on a certain set of circumstances, based on what was negotiated in the CBA.
And I don't kow why you say I am siding with the company. Drew asked a question about jumpseat, I gave him my opinion. It has nothing to do with siding with anyone.

cloudkicker1981 04-11-2006 11:26 AM

TonyC
 
sorry wrong thread,


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