U.S. to Impose Tougher Rules for Pilot Rest on Long Routes
11-16-2008, 01:14 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by Gunter
I've heard we will be doing ulta long range and that we will be going to flag ops.
But I have also heard EFBs were coming to the 727, we will be issued laptop computers, foreign pilots were going to steal our flying and Elvis lives.
But I have also heard EFBs were coming to the 727, we will be issued laptop computers, foreign pilots were going to steal our flying and Elvis lives.
11-16-2008, 05:55 PM
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What I heard.....
That we will be BOTH Supplemental and Flag Ops, depending on the aircraft; meaning the 727 will still be Supplemental while the rest of the Fleet will be Flag.
By keeping the 727 Supplemental, there is no need for the "immediate communication" requirement of the Flag Ops per the CFR's. This way, there is no requirement to install ACARS or Sat Phones. Per the recent trials, AGRIS / Delta Radio / etc. failed to meet the Flag Ops requirement.
Now, this is from the crew bus out to the Democrat Lot.....
That we will be BOTH Supplemental and Flag Ops, depending on the aircraft; meaning the 727 will still be Supplemental while the rest of the Fleet will be Flag.
By keeping the 727 Supplemental, there is no need for the "immediate communication" requirement of the Flag Ops per the CFR's. This way, there is no requirement to install ACARS or Sat Phones. Per the recent trials, AGRIS / Delta Radio / etc. failed to meet the Flag Ops requirement.
Now, this is from the crew bus out to the Democrat Lot.....
11-16-2008, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Precontact
What's the main penalty for using supplemental ops? Fuel?
11-17-2008, 05:10 AM
#16
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I forget who I was talking to from MGT but I was told that we would operate both certificates. Told Flag for most ops and Supp for charters.. Also had a very senior GOC manager on an OBS ride and it sounds like some sort of SAT phone for the 727 to meet the Flag Ops reqs....
11-17-2008, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
That's one. Alternate required on every flight regardless of wx. I don't know if that's the "main" one, but it's significant.
