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The bigger question is what will our shippers do if we announce that we are laying off pilots?

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Originally Posted by 1stCivDiv (Post 501347)

Had an intresting discussion with the Capt I flew with last night. We reread the 48/60 clause and I will repost it to discuss...

4.a.2.b

The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough.

The way we read it was they have to drop the MIN bid period GUARANTEE to 48/60, after a bid period notice, but there is nothing in this that says they have to BUILD the LINES to 48/60. IE they could say "OK we are dropping the min guarantee to 48/60 to delay a furlough..." Then they leave the lines alone to what they are now 63/79 range. That would get them out of them having to buy up the lines to the min, as they do right now.

The way we read it was there is no requirement to actually BUILD the lines to 48/60. They would just pay whatever flying there is on the specific line. Any thoughts??

Yep. That's how I understand it too. To say it has no teeth depends upon your perspective. If you are, say, 200 or less from the bottom of the Master Seniority List, this thing has teeth.

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Originally Posted by kronan (Post 501886)

The bigger question is what will our shippers do if we announce that we are laying off pilots?

Go ask one. You will not like the answer.

Gunter, Just change your name to Eeyore already. sheeesh.

Our customers couldn't care less how many pilots it takes to get their packages to their destinations, so long as they get there on time.

Shipper, reading headline (as if they would ever bother to read the small print on page 23 of the business section) "FedEx furloughs 600 pilots": yawn.

Shareholders might have a different reaction (I think they would applaud a cut in costs and would react favorably, as would the market), but the customers, no way. We could be using moonbeams for all they know or care.

FJ

For christ's sake, please stop the furlough talk. It isn't going to happen. Cost reduction plans, talking with shippers, manning mitigation strategies? Come on guys, wild speculation isn't helping anybody, in fact it's getting pretty ridiculous. Unless you're Fred Smith and/or Dave Bronczek, you don't have enough information to make any educated opinions on the future plans of this multi-billion dollar, multi-national corporation.

Please get over yourself. You're not that smart.

^^^^^^^^ Way to tell 'em Fred!

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Originally Posted by HoursHore (Post 501962)

Gunter, Just change your name to Eeyore already. sheeesh.

You are cracking the code.

It's more like "The Adventures of Gulliver" Glum character.

"It'll never work"

"We'll never make it"

It all sounds like voodoo to me.
I don't believe in superstition...it's bad luck.

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Originally Posted by kronan (Post 501886)

The bigger question is what will our shippers do if we announce that we are laying off pilots?

That reminds me of the logic used during the FPA days. Everybody thought when we announced that we were taking a strike vote that the stock would plummet, it did the exact opposite.

Most shippers will not even know if we furlough pilots. Why would they care.