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04-18-2006, 01:54 PM
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Losing 24 aircraft that have S/O's, at manning at 5 per aircraft equals 120 unneeded third seat positions. Seems like in the not too far distance future the DC-10 will only have over 60 year olds in the back seat.
04-18-2006, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
Losing 24 aircraft that have S/O's, at manning at 5 per aircraft equals 120 unneeded third seat positions. Seems like in the not too far distance future the DC-10 will only have over 60 year olds in the back seat.
FedEx is only doing what the PAX carriers started doing about 10 years ago...................Parking 3 seaters and replacing them with 2 seaters.
Be happy at least we are net gaining in actual hulls.
Just think if we were only getting 1 for 1 ( one 3 holer for 1 two holer) and the age 60 thing passes..................(Which it might)....that would stagnate
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04-18-2006, 03:27 PM
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I've only heard it discussed, but never have seen anything definitive about manning formulas. I would imagine that a 727 that flies 6 hours a day and sits the rest will be manned differently than a DC-10 that flies 18 hours a day domestic. They both will likely be manned differently than an MD-11 that flies 22 hours per day international. I'm only using those as examples that it's likely not a one-for-one swap. In other words, losing 2 727s and gaining 3 MD-11s does not necessarliy mean an even swap in bodies. There are quite a few MD-11s in the air at any moment with 3 or 4 pilots earning money.
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04-18-2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I've only heard it discussed, but never have seen anything definitive about manning formulas. I would imagine that a 727 that flies 6 hours a day and sits the rest will be manned differently than a DC-10 that flies 18 hours a day domestic -
But I was just using the number 5 per a/c as an easy example as to about how many crewmembers won't be replaced because of the fleet plan change.
04-18-2006, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
... there are 475 727 s/o's for 108 a/c and 191 DC10 s/o's for 33 a/c.
I wasn't trying to make any other point other than it's a bit more complicated than meets the eye.
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