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FlyByNyte 01-08-2009 01:42 PM

Bid Pack
 
FEB 08 just hit the web

USMCFDX 01-08-2009 01:47 PM

Good time to be a ND and on the 757. 71:51 avg BLG

gcsass 01-08-2009 01:48 PM

all over the place.....727 rlg is 61 hrs....airbus cap rlg is 59, fo is 63! interesting to say the least...:mad:

onetime 01-08-2009 01:51 PM

Is it just me or did BidX just roll and pull with the Fed bidpack.

JethroFDX 01-08-2009 02:01 PM

Looks like multiple postings for the same lines.

FrankTheTank 01-08-2009 02:01 PM

DC-10 is 62:27.... Glad it is not 48 for those guys....

Prevent a furlough my @ss!

FlyByNyte 01-08-2009 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by onetime (Post 533759)
Is it just me or did BidX just roll and pull with the Fed bidpack.

I already sent it to P. He's fixing it--said it's a change in the company format?

These beauties are brought to you by management. So far I am really liking all the day night sleep cycle flip/flops!:(

FedExBusBoy 01-08-2009 02:21 PM

These are the best they will be........it's only going to get worse from here on out. Buckle up tight.........

av8rmike 01-08-2009 02:54 PM

Buy Up Savings
 
I hate math in public, but here is what I get as far as 'savings per seat' from not buying-up to 68 in Feb. I used the following for pay assumptions:

WB Capt @ 12yr
WB F/O @ 10yr
WB S/O at 8yr

NB Capt @ 12yr
NB F/O @ 6yr
NB S/O @ 4yr

MD-11 ANC:
C - $110.7K
F - $204.9K

MD-11 MEM:
C - $480.6K
F - $507.0K

MD-11 LAX:
C - $69.9K
F - $82.9K

A300 MEM:
C - $892.7K
F - $235.2K

727:
C - $396.2K
F - $146.7K
S - $123.2K

DC-10:
C - $124.4K
F - $68.9K
S - $41.4K

Total savings for Feb are $3.5M. These numbers are just fluff, but they do show where we're fattest.

fedupbusdriver 01-08-2009 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by av8rmike (Post 533796)

Total savings for Feb are $3.5M.

That's one way to look at it. Another way would be, That's how much the company will have to pay back after losing the grievance. :cool:

FedExBusBoy 01-08-2009 03:47 PM

I dedicate this one to you Av8rMike.........

YouTube - Styx - Too Much Time On My Hands

skypine27 01-08-2009 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver (Post 533844)
That's one way to look at it. Another way would be, That's how much the company will have to pay back after losing the grievance. :cool:

Speaking of Grievances...

Has anyone confirmed the ANC/LAX reserve fiasco? Is it a Typo?? (It had better be)

Gunter 01-08-2009 05:22 PM

Sounds like PC and his gang didn't get what they wanted for Christmas.

magic rat 01-08-2009 05:48 PM

I don't work in management, but that doesn't look like '800 overmanned' lines to ME!!!:eek:

What are they thinking?

Normy! 01-08-2009 06:10 PM

The 727 SO lines make no sense-

I use Bid X, and it appears that they built 244 lines, most of which are easily commutable. I commute out of south Florida, so I'm happy to see these lines. But what I'm confused about is the fact that each line...lets say it is a Philadelphia line...Is repeated six or seven times. What gives? They cannot have 6 SO's flying the same line! How is this going to work~

N?

MD11Fr8Dog 01-08-2009 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Normy! (Post 533962)
The 727 SO lines make no sense-

I use Bid X, and it appears that they built 244 lines, most of which are easily commutable. I commute out of south Florida, so I'm happy to see these lines. But what I'm confused about is the fact that each line...lets say it is a Philadelphia line...Is repeated six or seven times. What gives? They cannot have 6 SO's flying the same line! How is this going to work~

N?

Read the rest of the msg board and/or go get the FastBid/BidX update!

A300_Driver 01-08-2009 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 533926)
Sounds like PC and his gang didn't get what they wanted for Christmas.

Oh, I think they got it--the low paying lines pay 59 hrs! :eek:
Until they have to pay it back when they lose the grievance! :D

Bulletboy 01-08-2009 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by A300_Driver (Post 533989)
Oh, I think they got it--the low paying lines pay 59 hrs! :eek:
Until they have to pay it back when they lose the grievance! :D

Yea, and wouldn't it be great if the grievance paid everyone the same lump sum, even to the guys that were still able to make full pay:eek:

Gunter 01-08-2009 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Normy! (Post 533962)
The 727 SO lines make no sense-

I use Bid X, and it appears that they built 244 lines, most of which are easily commutable. I commute out of south Florida, so I'm happy to see these lines. But what I'm confused about is the fact that each line...lets say it is a Philadelphia line...Is repeated six or seven times. What gives? They cannot have 6 SO's flying the same line! How is this going to work~

N?

I think the 1000 series lines are CA, 2000 FO and 3000 SO.

Definitely not 244 lines per seat.

vschip 01-08-2009 08:17 PM

in my best boycaptain

..................

Overnitefr8 01-08-2009 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bulletboy (Post 534025)
Yea, and wouldn't it be great if the grievance paid everyone the same lump sum, even to the guys that were still able to make full pay:eek:

Well, it would be the right thing to do. :rolleyes:

Laughing_Jakal 01-08-2009 09:22 PM

now now
 
I am sure that any settlement will be paid directly to FedEx ALPA just like the scope payments were. Then we will use it to buy out FoxHunter and his pals to retire, thus the company gets its manning problem solved, the union's mitigation strategy is used and it comes out of our pockets. Cost neutral to the company, not counting the bonuses for those that orchestrated it.

Think HCSA Redux!!!!!!!!!!!:(

Actually I say that in jest, just to torque off any MEC Lurkers on here. Especially SleepyF-18.

In reality, I believe that the reason the 757 BLG is so high relative to others is to foster anti-ND sentiment. Figuratively twisting the arrow lodged in my chest to remind me who shot it. I refuse to get mad at the old-fkrs who are on that jet, and in a newly acquired evangelical zeal, I have forgiven DW in my heart.....they didn't build the bid packs. I won't play into the hand of he who seeks advantage.

Like some ugly ethnic slurs used too frequently today, some things can only be permissibly done within a group. Trying to divide us by playing upon our fears and differences will only serve to make me abandon my differences and fear:). They may be old, wrinkly, stinky, greedy near-dead bastages, and self-congratulatory MEC blowhards who ignore the will of the membership and bid airplanes we have pay issues with........but their my old, wrinkly, stinky, greedy near-dead bastages, and self-congratulatory MEC blowhards who ignored the will of the membership and bid the 777......but who are now standing shoulder to shoulder with me.

FoxHunter......he's not heavy....he's my neardead.:D





Look for the MEC to "do the right thing" (and I really do mean a good thing) shortly. I have some scoop that even BoyCaptain is not privy to. I may even have to pull my own weight and volunteer at Kirby.

PurpleTail 01-08-2009 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by av8rmike (Post 533796)
Total savings for Feb are $3.5M. These numbers are just fluff, but they do show where we're fattest.

Really? How's that?

If you really want to show a more accurate number...divide the number crewmembers in that particular seat by the amount saved to get how much was saved for EACH crewmember and not the whole seat. :D That would show where we are more fat.

I'd do it myself but I'm not on reserve doing absolutely nothing! :rolleyes:

BTW, great job on your calculated cost savings to the company.

av8rmike 01-09-2009 12:04 AM

Riiiiiiight, I'm sure the company doesn't have a clue how much $$ they're going to save by not buying up the lines... I was just interested since the oft qouted number around here was 'one million per month'. Obviously, that was low.

MaydayMark 01-09-2009 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by av8rmike (Post 534159)
Riiiiiiight, I'm sure the company doesn't have a clue how much $$ they're going to save by not buying up the lines... I was just interested since the oft qouted number around here was 'one million per month'. Obviously, that was low.


No doubt that was when they were building lines to 65 hrs and buying them up to 68 hours? Not exactly the same situation today?

MoonF18 01-09-2009 04:39 AM

From Laughing Jackal:
Actually I say that in jest, just to torque off any MEC Lurkers on here. Especially SleepyF-18.

Dude, you seem pretty smart, but dont go into the detective business, you got the wrong guy.

Pecan 01-09-2009 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal (Post 534106)
FoxHunter......he's not heavy....he's my neardead.:D

Love those lyrics....trying to imagine them put to some music.

Maybe you & Weird Al could get together and come up with some real doozies. :p


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