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Old 04-25-2006, 05:49 AM   #11  
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I do not count myself as a spoiler; just presenting my opinion. One reply from DaveP2 is really a work of art " If the planes didn't fly, the trucks wouldn't roll." Dave, you really believe this? Virtually all of the state Arkansas is served by FedEx Express trucks.
Also, in days after September 11th, 2001; all the domestic freight got to it's destination via truck (some of it was late but the freight rolled on trucks).
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I do not count myself as a spoiler; just presenting my opinion. One reply from DaveP2 is really a work of art " If the planes didn't fly, the trucks wouldn't roll." Dave, you really believe this? Virtually all of the state Arkansas is served by FedEx Express trucks.
Also, in days after September 11th, 2001; all the domestic freight got to it's destination via truck (some of it was late but the freight rolled on trucks).
Yes, I do. If Arkansas ONLY received freight from Arkansas (no inbreeding jokes, please), then your premise would be valid, but for interstate (and international) commerce to work, it ALL has to work, not just the ground portion. I doubt a FedEx truck could get from Memphis to Seattle (or Frankfurt, for that matter) and honor the overnight guarantee.
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Several of my pilot friends at FedEx have said privately that they would have accepted the companies offer early this year.
No doubt. The same "pilot" friends who made the offer in the first place. They work in the next cubicle over...

'nother management drone...
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I do not count myself as a spoiler; just presenting my opinion. One reply from DaveP2 is really a work of art " If the planes didn't fly, the trucks wouldn't roll." Dave, you really believe this? Virtually all of the state Arkansas is served by FedEx Express trucks.
Also, in days after September 11th, 2001; all the domestic freight got to it's destination via truck (some of it was late but the freight rolled on trucks).

September 11th was an isolated incident, and I'm sure that the "absolutely, positively overnight" guarantee didn't apply.

And you're right, my statement was a work of art, because the reverse of it also applies; if the trucks didn't roll, the planes wouldn't fly! It's an interconnected system. The overnight concept would not exist at all without the cooperation of the two.

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Several of my pilot friends at FedEx have said privately that they would have accepted the companies offer early this year.
Even if true, "several" does not equate to "50% plus 1" or a simple majority. I am putting my faith in the group as a whole, not simply your "pilot friends" who share your defeatist attitude.
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DaveP2,
Concerning your quote: "if the trucks don't roll " When would the trucks not roll? Would you say: when there is a squall line to the west and the truck drivers refuse to depart Memphis until the squall line passes by.
Also on a side note: DaveP2, why do you have P2 with your name and not P1? Do you know that P2 freight is trucked in many instances say even from the West Coast. Another tid-bit from the last quarters earnings report from FedEx and that is: "Express domestic freight volumes decreased 3% / Dave, you might look up the percentage change in International volumes and report back to the class.

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I try to stay out of the rants but frankly, cub pilot writes just like another management stooge. We will win this one regardless of the disinformation he and others like him publish at the behest of our management.
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Concerning your quote: "if the trucks don't roll " When would the trucks not roll? Would you say: when there is a squall line to the west and the truck drivers refuse to depart Memphis until the squall line passes by.
Also on a side note: DaveP2, why do you have P2 with your name and not P1? Do you know that P2 freight is trucked in many instances say even from the West Coast. Another tid-bit from the last quarters earnings report from FedEx and that is: "Express domestic freight volumes decreased 3% / Dave, you might look up the percentage change in International volumes and report back to the class.
Cub,

I think you're missing the point here. You seem to be busy engaging in the "us vs. them" game; the only point I'm trying to make here is that FedEx corp as a whole depends on all of its subsidiaries for it's massive profits, not just the ground side or the air side. To get bogged down in the numbers is to miss the main point, that it is a team effort all around.

I'm not sure what's up with "P2 freight," my experience is with military cargo movement. I used "DaveP2" because my original login (DaveP) got jacked up and I couldn't post replies or start threads. No, I wasn't blacklisted either, I only had 4 posts to my credit before I started having problems. Not even you could seriously irritate someone that much in so short a time

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The only point I'm trying to make here is that FedEx corp as a whole depends on all of its subsidiaries for it's massive profits, not just the ground side or the air side.

Well Said !!
Totally agree with you and please don't picture me as one who is playing the flight side against the ground side. The FedEx companies complement each other and all the FedEx information service and shipping companies add to the big pie of massive revenues.
My initial point was the amount of leverage that APLA has. I am tired of hearing on this site that U'all (AKA some line pilots and I don't think that it is 50% plus 1) will show Fred we mean business when in reality this company has positioned itself to not have all its eggs in one basket. FedEx is way ahead of our competition AKA UPS and reading the financial reports reinforces this. The real sleeping Bear is Kinkos vs UPS stores and what the future holds. Don't be misled by Kinkos operating percentage profit on last quarters statement. Kinkos will someday be a major profit center for FedEx.
Smith is 10 years ahead of everyone on the future; stay tuned
Also FedEx International volumes increased 10% last quarter to help you with your class assignment.

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Also FedEx International volumes increased 10% last quarter to help you with your class assignment.
We have the first glimmer of understanding here, cub. The real growth of this company is INTERNATIONAL, specifically, but not exclusively, China.

Now YOUR class assignment is to provide us with the TRUCK shipping times from the following locations to the U.S.: Shanghai, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Singapore, Penang, Taipei, Seoul, Tokyo, New Delhi, and Frankfurt. That would be, what, P32?

We wait with bated breath.

As far as "Kinkos will someday be a major profit center for FedEx." You DO realize that real pilots are subject to drug testing, do you not? I'm not sure if that applies to management not, so you may be safe.

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