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Old 04-25-2006, 11:32 AM
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Help me.

You put in 5 standing bids for example. Youre first choice you dont get. Does the system automatically look at your second choice or does it go to the next guy on the list, then come back to you?

Does passover pay come when you enter your second year, or when the guy behind you gets his second year pay?
 
Old 04-25-2006, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jack
Help me.

You put in 5 standing bids for example. Youre first choice you dont get. Does the system automatically look at your second choice or does it go to the next guy on the list, then come back to you?

Does passover pay come when you enter your second year, or when the guy behind you gets his second year pay?
For the standing bid system it looks at your second choice. What you are thinking of VTO line construction.

If your first request for VTO flying is unavailable the system then proceeds to the next person on the VTO list and looks at their first request. After all individual first requests have been looked at and either honored or rejected, the system comes back to the top of the list and starts over again. Ya, ya, I know. I had the same thoughts when it was explained to me by an assistant chief pilot.

Passover pay hasn't been paid in the past until you (the passed over pilot) complete quals in the airplane you were passed over for. First thing- you have to bid and be able to hold the seat you were passed over for. Once the junior guy checks out (fully line qualed) the passover pay clock begins. When you finally get a training date and get yourself qualed, they cut you a check. That's how it worked when I checked out as a captain a few years ago. They cut my check (after some discussion of when my pass over clock should have started) as soon as I took my company qual ride.
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Old 04-25-2006, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger

Passover pay hasn't been paid in the past until you (the passed over pilot) complete quals in the airplane you were passed over for. First thing- you have to bid and be able to hold the seat you were passed over for. Once the junior guy checks out (fully line qualed) the passover pay clock begins. When you finally get a training date and get yourself qualed, they cut you a check. That's how it worked when I checked out as a captain a few years ago. They cut my check (after some discussion of when my pass over clock should have started) as soon as I took my company qual ride.
Since the Pay Only Passover Adjustment LOA was ratified, the procedure changed. (Yes, I know, the LOA is not readily available for viewing.)

If you bid a seat and are awarded the seat, and a junior crewmember who also bid that seat on the same vacancy posting is activated into that seat, you will begin receiving (not just accruing credit for) Passover Pay for that seat. Simply stated, the Passover Pay is the difference between what you're making in the seat you currently hold and what you would be making were you presently activated in the seat you were awarded.




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Old 04-25-2006, 03:55 PM
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This is a good thing. You get your $$$ up front. As it should be.
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:18 PM
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Gotcha with the pass over. But say for instance I bid FO ANC then I bid FO LAX. The computer says no to ANC, it then looks at LAX? Or does it skip to the next guy. Then start all over again. Its kinda of a hard question to ask, I hope I make sense. In other words does the system keep looking to give you what you want or looks at all the 1st tries of everybody.

Also, for secondary vacancies do we bid again for that?
 
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It starts at seniority number one, assigns the highest seat choice available, and then moves to the next seniority number.


Secondaries, or those vacancies created by pilots moving to another seat, are all done on the same bid.




I can explain this all in person and make sure all your questions are answered if you'll just tell me which trip you're flying next.








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Old 04-25-2006, 05:12 PM
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Thanks for the info.
 
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