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USMCFDX 01-26-2009 10:27 AM

FDX - Are you still woring 15 Minutes for free?
 
Since all of the focus has been lately about the reduced BLG, 61:46 for me next month, I would like to focus on some other lost hours.

We used to have 15 minutes scheduled prior to every trip 1:15 show prior to launch. Now we have an 1:00. More lost pay.

Are you still showing up to the folder 15 minutes early? That is fifteen minutes or your time. That is time you are working for free, never mind extra at straight pay. You are working for free!!

I admit I was still doing it, but no more. If FedEx says a show of one hour prior to launch is all I need to do all of the admin required prior to flight and catch a bus to the jet, then one hour it is. At the folder one minute early is still early, I will be on time. "The World On Time" is on the side of our jets, not "The World Early". I will more than likely be in AOC anyway, but I will catch fifteen more minutes of Oprah on the TV prior to arriving at the counter.

Nothing unprofessional about showing up on time ready to do my job, at the time FedEx says I should be there.

And you will not catch me on a crew bus prior to show that is for sure!

Gunter 01-26-2009 10:40 AM

My favorite is catching a DH.

Sometimes they say "allow extra time to make the flight." Indeed.

Schedules can give us extra time any time they like. We're not the ones that created the problem by showing up on time!

JetJocF14 01-26-2009 11:06 AM

I suggest we all sing along cum-by-ya on the crew bus out to the 800 gates. That should take about 30 minutes.............;)

ratsnrip 01-26-2009 11:09 AM

Missing a letter / freudian? H or K Whoring or Working

USMCFDX 01-26-2009 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by ratsnrip (Post 545599)
Missing a letter / freudian? H or K Whoring or Working

I noticed that also after I posted and thought the same thing. Wish I could say I was that whitty to have done it on purpose.

BadGolfer 01-26-2009 11:17 AM

How many times do we accept direct clearances by ATC? How many times do we fly .85 instead of .80 to catch up to get back on time. If we flew the planned route and speed no matter what, do you think it would have an affect on things. We have always been can-do kinds of guys and will do anything to make it work.

Instead of the "world on time."

How about

"The Folder, On Time"

R1340 01-26-2009 11:45 AM

or "The World, just in time":D

FR8Hauler 01-26-2009 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by R1340 (Post 545626)
or "The World, just in time":D

And not a minute early...

kronan 01-26-2009 01:51 PM

The 15 minutes early at the folder only impacted hard time trips. Most trips at FedEx pay for MPDP and the extra 15 minutes wasn't reflected in pay. Only showed up if TAFB was greater than 24 hours, and amounted to a whopping 2 minutes of pay.

And no, I tend to aim to try and show at the folder in the 5-10 mins early to give me a bit of slop if something should go awry. But, I do show up aware of the NOTAMs and weather that might impact my certificate. But, that's just extra work I do for me to keep from winding up with the feet on a carpet somewhere listening to an ALPA lawyer rephrase my words into verbiage sufficient to keep baby in new shoes.

And remember, nobody puts Baby in a corner

USMCFDX 01-26-2009 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by kronan (Post 545714)
The 15 minutes early at the folder only impacted hard time trips. Most trips at FedEx pay for MPDP and the extra 15 minutes wasn't reflected in pay. Only showed up if TAFB was greater than 24 hours, and amounted to a whopping 2 minutes of pay.

And no, I tend to aim to try and show at the folder in the 5-10 mins early to give me a bit of slop if something should go awry. But, I do show up aware of the NOTAMs and weather that might impact my certificate. But, that's just extra work I do for me to keep from winding up with the feet on a carpet somewhere listening to an ALPA lawyer rephrase my words into verbiage sufficient to keep baby in new shoes.

And remember, nobody puts Baby in a corner

Well that whopping 2 minutes of pay is pay I and many others no longer get. It is lost pay never to be recovered. Just one of the small chips.

Where in the contract does it say you should show up early to give your self some slop if something should go awry? FedEx says an hour is all you need. If something goes awry, I will start to deal with the issue after my show time, and I will not rush myself doing so. If the flight is late due to something going awry, then so be it, it was out of our, the pilots control anyway.

Why do I need to show up aware of weather and NATAMS? Is that not part of why I show up an hour prior to take off?

I will show up dressed professionally, ready to do my job in a professional manner, on time, not early for when things might go awry.

I used to show up early and you have valid points, but I will now be on time. That is when the contract says I need to be there.


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