USPS News - More Bad News for Purple
01-29-2009, 10:02 AM
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USPS News - More Bad News for Purple
Anyone notice the news about the USPS this morning? Going to take at least 1 day off a week for mail deliveries. I know we have a contract but you know there has to be clauses in it for this type of scenario. What can it mean for us? Just MHO:
1. One less day of flying mail. Saturday most likely. They are saying that they are looking into Saturday or Tuesday to not deliver mail. Either way it seems to me that Saturday makes the most sense.
2. Therefore no need for Saturday mail flights as it can be done for Sunday. No PO's open on Sat means no additional mail over the weekend. Hence Friday's mail just gets sent on Sunday instead of Saturday.
3. No need to fly on Saturday for us. No fuel cost, no crew cost or ramp cost. All of those seems like a bad thing for us.
4. Don't see many mail flights that are Max hence any over flow can be handled by the Sunday flights.
5. Mail is a great gig for us, I hated to hear that news this morning!
Sure the large bases will still fly Intl stuff as usual but this just seems to me to be more bad news for the boys.
Just thought I would throw that out.......bad news keeps coming. What was it some other guy said in another post. "He still believes in Hope and Change......?" Great!! I have some property for you....it is really nice, Trust Me!
1. One less day of flying mail. Saturday most likely. They are saying that they are looking into Saturday or Tuesday to not deliver mail. Either way it seems to me that Saturday makes the most sense.
2. Therefore no need for Saturday mail flights as it can be done for Sunday. No PO's open on Sat means no additional mail over the weekend. Hence Friday's mail just gets sent on Sunday instead of Saturday.
3. No need to fly on Saturday for us. No fuel cost, no crew cost or ramp cost. All of those seems like a bad thing for us.
4. Don't see many mail flights that are Max hence any over flow can be handled by the Sunday flights.
5. Mail is a great gig for us, I hated to hear that news this morning!
Sure the large bases will still fly Intl stuff as usual but this just seems to me to be more bad news for the boys.
Just thought I would throw that out.......bad news keeps coming. What was it some other guy said in another post. "He still believes in Hope and Change......?" Great!! I have some property for you....it is really nice, Trust Me!
01-29-2009, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JNYVEGAS
Anyone notice the news about the USPS this morning? Going to take at least 1 day off a week for mail deliveries. I know we have a contract but you know there has to be clauses in it for this type of scenario. What can it mean for us? Just MHO:
1. One less day of flying mail. Saturday most likely. They are saying that they are looking into Saturday or Tuesday to not deliver mail. Either way it seems to me that Saturday makes the most sense.
2. Therefore no need for Saturday mail flights as it can be done for Sunday. No PO's open on Sat means no additional mail over the weekend. Hence Friday's mail just gets sent on Sunday instead of Saturday.
3. No need to fly on Saturday for us. No fuel cost, no crew cost or ramp cost. All of those seems like a bad thing for us.
4. Don't see many mail flights that are Max hence any over flow can be handled by the Sunday flights.
5. Mail is a great gig for us, I hated to hear that news this morning!
Sure the large bases will still fly Intl stuff as usual but this just seems to me to be more bad news for the boys.
Just thought I would throw that out.......bad news keeps coming. What was it some other guy said in another post. "He still believes in Hope and Change......?" Great!! I have some property for you....it is really nice, Trust Me!
1. One less day of flying mail. Saturday most likely. They are saying that they are looking into Saturday or Tuesday to not deliver mail. Either way it seems to me that Saturday makes the most sense.
2. Therefore no need for Saturday mail flights as it can be done for Sunday. No PO's open on Sat means no additional mail over the weekend. Hence Friday's mail just gets sent on Sunday instead of Saturday.
3. No need to fly on Saturday for us. No fuel cost, no crew cost or ramp cost. All of those seems like a bad thing for us.
4. Don't see many mail flights that are Max hence any over flow can be handled by the Sunday flights.
5. Mail is a great gig for us, I hated to hear that news this morning!
Sure the large bases will still fly Intl stuff as usual but this just seems to me to be more bad news for the boys.
Just thought I would throw that out.......bad news keeps coming. What was it some other guy said in another post. "He still believes in Hope and Change......?" Great!! I have some property for you....it is really nice, Trust Me!
Could be good news? The USPS has said it would most likely be a "light" day, maybe Tuesday instead of Saturday. They would most likely still want the freight moved, just not paying the delivery guys for one day to save labor/fuel etc. The second "positive" (used very loosely) is the need for more deliveries on what ever day they do not have service being pushed towards FDX or UPS?
Random thoughts...
01-29-2009, 11:44 AM
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That's part of the reason that UPS is more stable than FDX. Before anyone thinks that statement is meant as flamebait let me say it's not. Any portion of your flying that is based on a contract puts you in a tenuous position. just ask Astar and ABX. UPS tried really hard to get that contract from you guys the last time around because UPS mgt wanted to hurt FDX. One of our execs said exactly that to a new hire class of pilots.
01-29-2009, 12:06 PM
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I saw this in the news too. What do we need the post office for? Close the whole thing down and if people still want that service I bet UPS, FDX, and a bunch of local and regional places would do it better than the USPS.
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01-29-2009, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JNYVEGAS
Anyone notice the news about the USPS this morning? Going to take at least 1 day off a week for mail deliveries. I know we have a contract but you know there has to be clauses in it for this type of scenario. What can it mean for us? Just MHO:
1. One less day of flying mail. Saturday most likely. They are saying that they are looking into Saturday or Tuesday to not deliver mail. Either way it seems to me that Saturday makes the most sense.
1. One less day of flying mail. Saturday most likely. They are saying that they are looking into Saturday or Tuesday to not deliver mail. Either way it seems to me that Saturday makes the most sense.
Do you have inside knowledge that Congress is actually going to make a change to let this happen?
Lots of moving parts other than what makes sense to you.
01-29-2009, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
Day cut will be the day with least volume, that would be Tuesday not Saturday. Saturday makes better sense to you why? Are you a postal employee with insider knowledge of volume levels?
Do you have inside knowledge that Congress is actually going to make a change to let this happen?
Lots of moving parts other than what makes sense to you.
Do you have inside knowledge that Congress is actually going to make a change to let this happen?
Lots of moving parts other than what makes sense to you.
Last edited by TimoC; 01-29-2009 at 12:49 PM.
01-29-2009, 12:23 PM
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Good news for all but USPS workers
For the previousely mentioned reasons, UPS, FEDEX and the american public will tend to be the winners in this move. If the USPS volume remains constant, then purple will see little change and may find ways to more efficiently move the mail. If the USPS volume drops, then express services may see a pickup(electronic data transfer may increase some also). Regardless, any time a congressional mandate is removed(6 day a week delivery) the public usually wins.
01-29-2009, 01:22 PM
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Sounds like its time to break up the USPS monopoly on mail delivery. Lets see, private industry can build cars, airplanes, and computers. But delivering the mail is too complicated. We need a government run monopoly to do that for us. Give me a break! Time to end the USPS and save the taxpayers some money.
01-29-2009, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rothbard
Sounds like its time to break up the USPS monopoly on mail delivery. Lets see, private industry can build cars, airplanes, and computers. But delivering the mail is too complicated. We need a government run monopoly to do that for us. Give me a break! Time to end the USPS and save the taxpayers some money.
01-29-2009, 01:57 PM
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USMCFDX....no I am a MEM MD11 F/O. Just common sense. Why move what is not delivered to the FDX facilities. If they do not deliver on Saturday or Tuesday, there is far less pick-up hence no reason to ship those days. Again, the light loads can easily be picked up on the next days normal morning mail runs. Saves USPS money....hence costing us $$$. Congress doesn't get involved in already existing contracts. Again, I would imagine there is a clause for this in the contract with USPS.
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