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A-V-A-T-R 02-07-2009 05:00 AM

FDX deviation question
 
I have a question for those who deviate often. If you have a deadhead that is under 5 hours block when scheduled, but over 5 hours block when you deviate, are you able to book it in first class? Thanks in advance!:)

Lambo 02-07-2009 05:20 AM

I have done that in the past without any problems.

FDXLAG 02-07-2009 06:18 AM

Yes and the reverse is true. If it is scheduled over 5 and but deviate under 5 I have caught shazzile for trying to book 1st class.

MaydayMark 02-07-2009 09:22 AM

Have upgraded to first class many times in this situation (deviation leg over 5 hours). Never had a problem ... but don't tell anybody or PC and Capt. "O" will use it as their next cost saving measure and unilaterally take another benefit away :eek:

MD11Fr8Dog 02-07-2009 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 553982)
Have upgraded to first class many times in this situation (deviation leg over 5 hours). Never had a problem ... but don't tell anybody or PC and Capt. "O" will use it as their next cost saving measure and unilaterally take another benefit away :eek:

You just told them! Right, PC!? Right, Capt "0"!? :cool:

Busboy 02-07-2009 10:16 AM

It's perfectly legal to book your deviation flight in 1st class, if it qualifies.

CBA 8.C.3.a.ii Air travel expenses shall be limited to the accepted fare for coach class unless the deviation flight would qualify for a higher class of service under Section 8.A.4.b.

Of course, your bank remains the same, regardless of what your deviation flight qualifies for.

hyperone 02-07-2009 02:02 PM

You also can book first class on any length D/H if your combined duty time with an operational leg exceeds 11:30, or the combined block time of an operational trip and a D/H, exceeds 8 total block hours.

So, say you operate an ANC-MEM leg with 8 hrs of duty, sit in MEM for 3 hrs, and then get on a MEM-ATL 1 hr D/H for a total of 12 hrs from your initial report time in ANC until your land time in ATL, then you would qualify for a first class seat on the 1 hr D/H.

You would also qualify for first class in this example because the combined block time is over 8 hrs.

CBA 8.4.A
b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
i. a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or
ii. a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or
iii. the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours.

When you call Corp Travel to book the first class ticket, just tell them it qualifies under one of these contract provisions: they know about them and will book it if you ask them to.

fedupbusdriver 02-07-2009 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 553985)
You just told them! Right, PC!? Right, Capt "0"!? :cool:

Don't you guys know that if you want to post something on this site, but you don't want the company to read it, then you must put it in (parenthesis).:cool:

(Just don't tell them I told you so.)

Overnitefr8 02-07-2009 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by hyperone (Post 554113)
CBA 8.4.A
b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
i. a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or
ii. a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or
iii. the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours.

When you call Corp Travel to book the first class ticket, just tell them it qualifies under one of these contract provisions: they know about them and will book it if you ask them to.


As long as you didn't get a legal crew rest betwen operating flight and deadhead flight you can extend your duty day to exceed 11:30 and qualify for first class. I do that a lot by getting only 6 or 7 hours at the hotel. Never been questioned by corp travel or crew audit.

Check 6 02-08-2009 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Overnitefr8 (Post 554293)
As long as you didn't get a legal crew rest betwen operating flight and deadhead flight you can extend your duty day to exceed 11:30 and qualify for first class. I do that a lot by getting only 6 or 7 hours at the hotel. Never been questioned by corp travel or crew audit.

Ok,

I thought I knew most of the rules as a commuter....This is a good one to have in my back pocket....thanks!


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