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990Convair 02-26-2009 03:49 PM

FDX - Excess Bid Strategies
 
We need a multi-faceted strategy to protect our financial interests in the wake of these upcoming excess bids. Some questions I have:

1. If you bid to relieve the excess and are awarded ANC, does the company buy your house?

2. If you bid to HKG to scam passover pay, in what circumstances would the company send you and when wouldn't they? What if 100 people bid W/B Captain in HKG? Knowing that this can't create an excess in an FDA would the company send you?

3. If you are excessed from MD-11 CAPT and your next choice is 777 F/O, are you seatlocked? Is that considered a downbid?

I think we all need to come up with options for various situations. I know there are lots of folks on here smarter than me, so let me say thanks in advance for any insight.

FedExBusBoy 02-26-2009 03:52 PM

I didn't think you were seatlocked if you were excessed period....no matter what I have on my preference bid

onetime 02-26-2009 03:52 PM

Some great questions for our union tax dollars to answer. Ready, ready, hold your breath!

Overnitefr8 02-26-2009 04:09 PM

OK, here's the union response. Read the contract! :mad:

To clarify. I am paraphrasing what the union will probably say. I am not a union rep.

onetime 02-26-2009 04:26 PM

OK, here's a member response, section 4.2 is in the contract and it is slightly unclear, would it be safe to say there are other sections with that same issue? Besides, we pay dues for current representation and support, no only for past accomplishments. Simply saying read the contract is akin to saying, we got you the nuclear sub, you figure out how to make it work.

Laughing_Jakal 02-26-2009 04:29 PM

Great
 
And you DO know what those Navy guys do on Nuclear Subs don't you? They don't hot bunk just because the thing is cramped.

:D

DiamondZ 02-26-2009 04:34 PM

Ive questioned why there is no formal contract education several times. It amazes me how much education we get on everything else but ZERO on such an important document.

FDX1 02-26-2009 04:49 PM

Excess bid strategies...not CBA CMI, Lesson 1
 
What the H...., he was talking about bidding strategies and you guys want lessons in contract 101! Read the freakin thing and call contract admin if you have questions. That's what they're there for!

Do you really think the Union should call everyone in and detail how 4700 pilots should bid during this excess? Same people complaining about how they weren't educated enough by the Mortgage brokers on their 5/1 ARMS.

FR8Hauler 02-26-2009 04:53 PM

Don't hold your breath. They put absolutely nothing out for the last excess that was canceled. Your best bet is to call the company. Our great leaders in the MEC were too worried about what the lawyers think instead of helping out their constituents.

FR8Hauler 02-26-2009 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by FDX1 (Post 567898)
What the H...., he was talking about bidding strategies and you guys want lessons in contract 101! Read the freakin thing and call contract admin if you have questions. That's what they're there for!

Do you really think the Union should call everyone in and detail how 4700 pilots should bid during this excess? Same people complaining about how they weren't educated enough by the Mortgage brokers on their 5/1 ARMS.

To answer your question...yes. Not individualy but a information pamplet on what is going down and what your options are. Read the contract? OK, if it is that simple why doesn't anyone put out a laymans version of "this is the no-$h7# translation." Call contract admin and you will get a different answer from every different guy who answers the phone. This is a very valid issue that needs to be addressed by the union without the ridiculous "read the contract" statements by sea lawyers like you.


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