Atlas Air Kabul Exemption
 

Exemption request to start service as soon as 7 april.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...ontentType=pdf

Would this mitigate the furloughs?

Gemini did it but didn't pay hazard pay because it was not a declared "war zone". Make sure you get paid appropriately and Company insurance or supplemental is valid when operating into places like this. Furthermore a training program would be nice. (However a special training program implies what the Company doesn't want to state: "it's exceptionally dangerous to operate into Kabul.") There's a reason C-17's are doing blacked out approaches and it's probably not prudent to do an all lit-up straight in final to an exceptionally hostile place.

Not a declared "War Zone"? Says who? The US Government disagrees ...

Q-1: What geographic areas are considered combat zones?

A-1: Combat zones are designated by an Executive Order from the President as areas in which the U.S. Armed Forces are engaging or have engaged in combat. There are currently three such combat zones (including the airspace above each):

Arabian Peninsula Areas, beginning Jan. 17, 1991 -- the Persian Gulf, Red Sea, Gulf of Oman, the part of the Arabian Sea north of 10° North latitude and west of 68° East longitude, the Gulf of Aden, and the countries of Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

Kosovo area, beginning Mar. 24, 1999 -- Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), Albania, the Adriatic Sea and the Ionian Sea north of the 39th Parallel.

Afghanistan, beginning Sept. 19, 2001.

Public Law 104-117 designates three parts of the former Yugoslavia as a Qualified Hazardous Duty Area, to be treated as if it were a combat zone, beginning Nov. 21, 1995 -- Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, and Macedonia.

In addition, the Department of Defense has certified these locations for combat zone tax benefits due to their direct support of military operations, beginning on the listed dates:

In support of Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan combat zone):

Pakistan, Tajikistan and Jordan - Sept. 19, 2001
Incirlik Air Base, Turkey - Sept. 21, 2001 through Dec. 31, 2005
Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan - Oct. 1, 2001
Philippines (only troops with orders referencing Operation Enduring Freedom) - Jan. 9, 2002
Yemen - Apr. 10, 2002
Djibouti - July 1, 2002
Somalia - Jan. 1, 2004

In support of Operation Iraqi Freedom (Arabian Peninsula Areas combat zone):

Turkey - Jan. 1, 2003 through Dec. 31, 2005
Israel - Jan. 1 through July 31, 2003
the Mediterranean Sea east of 30° East longitude - Mar. 19 through July 31, 2003
Jordan - Mar. 19, 2003
Egypt - Mar. 19 through Apr. 20, 2003

apologies; You are exactly correct. I did not have the right terminology; point being: make sure your specific airline pays hazard pay and ensures appropriate additional insurance is in place. (an FAA certified training program for unique approaches would be appropriate also.)

Side note I should get hazard pay for having to eat in India or having to have eaten in Africa, ever.

Hazard Pay? yea right.... we are in Kabul and Kandahar every day.

Atlas Hazard Pay
 

We get hazard pay for our operations into Afghanistan and Iraq.

Now thats what I want to see... and 747 doing an overhead "assualt" type approach that would be sporty.

Watch out for the missed approach climb gradients. Unlike just a "valley", many are bowls with only one way out after a very long turn. Think more like one way in and one way out if you have any real payload. You wouldn't be there if you didn't have real payloads.... So.....