FDX - European Domicile
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 357
When I went to the ANC road show the hard sell motivation was pretty clear. The logic was this; If we don't do the flying the company will outsource it to foreign pilots. When the union takes them to court on it (due to our outstanding scope language in the CBA), we would probably lose. The reason we would lose is because the company would argue they not only offered us the flying but also offered an enhanced package and we turned down the flying. Therefore we would have given the company a green light to out source our future flying.
The real question should have been, are we willing to call their bluff. Or was it a bluff.
The real question should have been, are we willing to call their bluff. Or was it a bluff.
#43
#45
I spoke with BC during and after the negotiations and he stated very clearly that school allowance was NEVER on the table. Management's fear appeared to be that costs would be open-ended because they would not be able predict how many children would actually be there and thus be unable to forecast costs. That is not to mention how much those costs actually are!
Do not shoot the messenger...
Do not shoot the messenger...
The company and the union could agree on what percentage (X) the company would fund up to a maximum of $Y per family.
Thus, the company could easily calculate the maximum cost per pilot and still discourage those large families with "a passel" of children from bidding the FDAs.
It would also incentivise pilots to choose schools wisely because they would be funding a portion of the costs....but, not all of it.
There's always a middle ground.
Unfortunately, I don't think the company needs to meet us there under the current circumstances.
....perhaps down the road, when the FDAs grow much larger and they need to expand beyond the current demographic they're currently seeking (i.e.single pilots, empty nestors, those with zero children)
#46
I spoke with BC during and after the negotiations and he stated very clearly that school allowance was NEVER on the table. Management's fear appeared to be that costs would be open-ended because they would not be able predict how many children would actually be there and thus be unable to forecast costs. That is not to mention how much those costs actually are!
Do not shoot the messenger...
Do not shoot the messenger...
#47
#49
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: MEM 767 Capt
Posts: 41
From the previous bid we were going to live in central Paris and were going to use public school for our pre-K boy. Easy to do when they hardly even speak English. The taxes the company pays for you allow you to use public schools there.
#50
The answer is yes. However, it will be full on French immersion. It is a great way to go for young children but can be very frustrating for them if you don't make a commitment to keep them in for at least six months or more. The stuff I have read says 6 months is the min and you probably need a couple years for them to become completely fluent. Big commitment for the parents too if you don't speak French when it comes time to help them do their homework!
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