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viperdriver 05-20-2009 06:36 AM

approved fare discrepancy
 
I know this has been discussed but:

I have a approved fare for a backend deadhead of 750 and when Fedex bought the ticket it is $850? So why is the approved fare 750? And now when I deviate can I buy an 850 ticket and not pay any out of pocket?

Busboy 05-20-2009 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by viperdriver (Post 613821)
I know this has been discussed but:

I have a approved fare for a backend deadhead of 750 and when Fedex bought the ticket it is $850? So why is the approved fare 750? And now when I deviate can I buy an 850 ticket and not pay any out of pocket?


You're right. This has been discussed. Ad nauseam.

To answer your question, simply...NO!

Do a search on APC of accepted fares threads/posts for more detailed info. We can't waste our time on this any more. We have wild rumors to spread, and character assasinations to rant about.

MEMA300 05-20-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by viperdriver (Post 613821)
I know this has been discussed but:

I have a approved fare for a backend deadhead of 750 and when Fedex bought the ticket it is $850? So why is the approved fare 750? And now when I deviate can I buy an 850 ticket and not pay any out of pocket?

That is the way it used to be. Oh the good ole days.

viperdriver 05-20-2009 07:30 AM

When I go to the FOX tab under airline it says I have a 844 ticket bought already. When that is refunded won't that go in my bank, or does the approved fare of 750 go in there? My only deadhead of the month and dont want to pay extra.

Dont shoot the messenger.

FDXLAG 05-20-2009 07:40 AM

It will go away. The accepted fare posted in the pairing will take its place. We chose not to fight this when they first started doing it.

I submitted a grievance but the legal (b)eagles told me no way. But not to be discouraged the MEC was in secret negotiations on the subject. That was 18 months ago.

FlybyKnite 05-20-2009 07:57 AM

But wasn't there a recent communication from contract enforcement to send them the details of such situations so they could document the circumstances and [hopefully] build a case ??

viperdriver 05-20-2009 08:32 AM

Called Global travel they said fares out of Canada are more than into Canada which is what accepted fare is based on and I could call crew audit or scheduling.

AFW_MD11 05-20-2009 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by FlybyKnite (Post 613864)
But wasn't there a recent communication from contract enforcement to send them the details of such situations so they could document the circumstances and [hopefully] build a case ??

There was a grievance....they WERE gathering folks individual historical data....they aren't collecting it any more. I don't know the current status of the grievance, but the Accepted Fare folks have been rigid on the "new policy" for a couple of years + now.

If anyone has heard the status of the grievance.....please share.


Originally Posted by viperdriver (Post 613890)
Called Global travel they said fares out of Canada are more than into Canada which is what accepted fare is based on and I could call crew audit or scheduling.

The PUBLISHED accepted fare is all you will get in your deviation bank and/or on your expense report - PERIOD.

No one at Global Travel will take responsibility for actually setting the monthly Accepted Fares - nor will they explain to any crew member thier method of arriving at said Accepted Fares.

For all we know, they could just pull them out of thin air, and there is (has been) absolutely NO accountability on the fares they set.

No one you call and/or email can or will change it.

This has been my experience over the last two years or so.

If you (or anyone) finds out anything different, please post the info here. Good luck, but don't hold your breath.

Plan all your deviating travel payments based on the Accepted Fare, 'cause that's all you will get if you deviate.

But, remember, FedEx is a "great" place to work! The deadhead travel policy is MUCH better than UPS!

Keep that in mind when you're forking over the extra $100.00 for your ticket.

MEMA300 05-20-2009 01:02 PM

Just stop deviating and see what happens.

Gunter 05-20-2009 01:47 PM

When you get cheated out of the fare discrepancy during a deviation think about how you also loose the GT. I think it's to help subsidize VEBA or the cost of the expensive optimizer program that doesn't exist.

At least we have going for us. :rolleyes:

machz990 05-21-2009 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by FlybyKnite (Post 613864)
But wasn't there a recent communication from contract enforcement to send them the details of such situations so they could document the circumstances and [hopefully] build a case ??

You mean provide the company with information it already has? Accepted fares were adjusted higher if Corp. Travel had to buy the ticket at a higher price for many years. The company would have the expense records indicating that. Most of this was done under the previous online expense reporting system prior to Fox. Without any negotiations it was literally changed over night.

fdx727pilot 05-21-2009 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by machz990 (Post 614558)
You mean provide the company with information it already has? .


Uhh, I may be wrong, but isn't Contract Enforcement our union, trying to get reliable info to get this changed

machz990 05-22-2009 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by fdx727pilot (Post 615154)
Uhh, I may be wrong, but isn't Contract Enforcement our union, trying to get reliable info to get this changed

Contract Enforcement (our union) was asking pilots for copies of old expense reports showing the accepted fare adjusted higher. Unfortunately for most pilots these expense reports were old and completed online (prior to FOX) and aren't available. These old expense reports were going to be submitted to the company to show previous precedent. I was simply stating in my comment that we would be providing the company with information (old expense reports) it already has.

sparkmo 05-22-2009 06:40 AM

Contract enforcement has a copy of the companies old policy taken from VIPS. It includes language stating the highest of the actual vs. planned fares would establish the bank. The company simply changed the letter and here we are - hoping contract enforcement will actually use this information in a greivance.

Cheers


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