UPS-Post MOU System Bid Questions-Roberto???
06-01-2009, 05:30 AM
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2005
Position: 757/767
Posts: 1,128
Originally Posted by J Dawg
As an extension of the UN, I believe ICAO does not have regulatory enforcement capability. However, if a nation's civil aviation authority adopts ICAO policy, then that nation has enforcement capability.
By the time the FAA adopted ICAO policy regarding the retirement age, I believe you were an FE. You're absolutely right!!...you had the right to keep your FE seat. I don't recall anyone challenging otherwise.
However, somewhere along the way your right to keep your FE seat turned into the right to take my FO seat, which was already awarded to me, and make me the FE. OK then...so the contract gave you additional opportunities, and lacked protections for those such as myself...., what can I say..
Look, I have no problem with someone winning the lottery. I really don't.
What I do have a problem with is when someone wins the lottery - at my expense - then complains that people are upset over it.
You won the lottery at my expense. Drop some sick time into the '09 pot. You'd be enhancing the next round of negotiations for the very contract which has given you so much.
By the time the FAA adopted ICAO policy regarding the retirement age, I believe you were an FE. You're absolutely right!!...you had the right to keep your FE seat. I don't recall anyone challenging otherwise.
However, somewhere along the way your right to keep your FE seat turned into the right to take my FO seat, which was already awarded to me, and make me the FE. OK then...so the contract gave you additional opportunities, and lacked protections for those such as myself...., what can I say..
Look, I have no problem with someone winning the lottery. I really don't.
What I do have a problem with is when someone wins the lottery - at my expense - then complains that people are upset over it.
You won the lottery at my expense. Drop some sick time into the '09 pot. You'd be enhancing the next round of negotiations for the very contract which has given you so much.
J Dawg, Giving the source you're asking wwwwwwwwwwwway too much from roberto
06-01-2009, 08:38 AM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: missionary
Posts: 320
Originally Posted by BrownClown
JDawg,
I don't know you from Adam, but based on your last 2 posts on this thread, I will treat you to a nite of cold beverages! I like the way you think, BROTHER.
I don't know you from Adam, but based on your last 2 posts on this thread, I will treat you to a nite of cold beverages! I like the way you think, BROTHER.
Brother highsky
300 hostage
06-02-2009, 09:48 AM
#15
Registered User
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: Capt: Lav Truck
Posts: 288
FF. not to be the master of the obvious, but landing an airline gig right now is a little bit harder than picking fly ****** out of ground pepper while wearing boxing gloves.
I dont think you will have to worry about it.
Sell all the crap you dont need, maybe even your house, and do something that gives you survival pay and is fun. You always have options amigo.
Hopefully no one is going to hit the street. This thing is not over yet IMO.
I dont think you will have to worry about it.
Sell all the crap you dont need, maybe even your house, and do something that gives you survival pay and is fun. You always have options amigo.
Hopefully no one is going to hit the street. This thing is not over yet IMO.
06-02-2009, 02:07 PM
#16
Tri-tanic operator
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Doggie
Posts: 2,382
Originally Posted by FliFast
I'm just worried that when I interview with airline #8, they will require me to resign my UPS Seniority number.
If you actually get a job with another airline, here's an idea ...
Place your letter of resignation in a FedEx overnight emvelope and send it to UPS HR on Grade Lane. More than likely it gets mistaken for a resume and placed in the circular file !
But at least you sent one in ...
CC
06-02-2009, 07:48 PM
#18
Freightmama!
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
Originally Posted by J Dawg
As an extension of the UN, I believe ICAO does not have regulatory enforcement capability. However, if a nation's civil aviation authority adopts ICAO policy, then that nation has enforcement capability.
By the time the FAA adopted ICAO policy regarding the retirement age, I believe you were an FE. You're absolutely right!!...you had the right to keep your FE seat. I don't recall anyone challenging otherwise.
However, somewhere along the way your right to keep your FE seat turned into the right to take my FO seat, which was already awarded to me, and make me the FE. OK then...so the contract gave you additional opportunities, and lacked protections for those such as myself...., what can I say..
Look, I have no problem with someone winning the lottery. I really don't.
What I do have a problem with is when someone wins the lottery - at my expense - then complains that people are upset over it.
You won the lottery at my expense. Drop some sick time into the '09 pot. You'd be enhancing the next round of negotiations for the very contract which has given you so much.
By the time the FAA adopted ICAO policy regarding the retirement age, I believe you were an FE. You're absolutely right!!...you had the right to keep your FE seat. I don't recall anyone challenging otherwise.
However, somewhere along the way your right to keep your FE seat turned into the right to take my FO seat, which was already awarded to me, and make me the FE. OK then...so the contract gave you additional opportunities, and lacked protections for those such as myself...., what can I say..
Look, I have no problem with someone winning the lottery. I really don't.
What I do have a problem with is when someone wins the lottery - at my expense - then complains that people are upset over it.
You won the lottery at my expense. Drop some sick time into the '09 pot. You'd be enhancing the next round of negotiations for the very contract which has given you so much.
06-02-2009, 07:49 PM
#19
Freightmama!
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
Originally Posted by viktorbravo
Sell all the crap you dont need, maybe even your house, and do something that gives you survival pay and is fun. You always have options amigo.
06-02-2009, 09:12 PM
#20
Registered User
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: Capt: Lav Truck
Posts: 288
yeah, sell, rent, whatever. And I'm in the that boat myself FP but its if the MOU DOES go through. If it does'nt go through I just go on making a great living with more money than I can spend and have a comfortable life doing whatever I want. Really tough to cut myself off from that easy life voluntarily, but that's what I did and I'm totally OK with it. In fact, I embrace it. One always has options no matter how desperate things may seem. You ALWAYS have options. Life and survival does not revolve around money or the acquisition of money, despite what most people have been led to believe. Step out of the box and you may just surprise yourself.
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