Political group does a 180 on FDX for UPS
#31
Destroy? The only thing keeping FDX alive is the fact that the Teamsters aren't there? Puleeze. Do you really think you would not survive the teamsters? Don't sell your organization so short. Sounds like you are buying into the typical anti labor rhetoric.
#32
FDX is built under the RLA!....there is nothing from stopping other employees from organizing now...and this coming from someone who comes from an organization(IPA) who kicked out the teamsters!
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It's completely unrealistic to believe that any union could simultaneously organize such a wide-ranging and disparate group, a fact that Fred Smith has been counting on for all these years. But even if it were possible, it would be unfair to penalize those "contractors" who do treat their employees responsibly by making them the subject of an effort to organize.
Fred (and his family) got theirs. His investors got theirs. The pilots got theirs. Now it's time for the drivers and ground workers to get theirs.
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Once again another independent contractor idiotic statement. Independent contractor applies to Fedex Ground drivers and Fedex ALPA pilots. It does not apply to other non union Fedex Express employees.
I know you guys would like the San Diego drivers to be able to shut down FDX operations because there are not enough tampons in the ladies room, but keep your facts straight.
I know you guys would like the San Diego drivers to be able to shut down FDX operations because there are not enough tampons in the ladies room, but keep your facts straight.
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#36
It's all how you started. FedEx started as an airline and bought some trucks. UPS has and still is a trucking company that has some planes. 80% of FedEx packages at some point ride in a FedEx plane. I'd bet the opposite is true at Big Brown.
UPS moves 3 or 4 times the amount of freight every day that FedEx does, but somehow does it with less than half the aircraft. The RLA is not for trucking companies.
Both are great companies but their operations are much different. My money is on "Uncle Fred" winning this argument.
#37
The workers who would be most affected by this change are the drivers and package handlers who work for the hundreds (if not thousands) of "independent contractors" employed by FedEx. They range from small "mom-and-pop" operations to medium-size trucking companies in size and scope of operations. Pay and benefits among those companies varies widely, from minimum-wage to above-industry-standard.
It's completely unrealistic to believe that any union could simultaneously organize such a wide-ranging and disparate group, a fact that Fred Smith has been counting on for all these years. But even if it were possible, it would be unfair to penalize those "contractors" who do treat their employees responsibly by making them the subject of an effort to organize.
Fred (and his family) got theirs. His investors got theirs. The pilots got theirs. Now it's time for the drivers and ground workers to get theirs.
It's completely unrealistic to believe that any union could simultaneously organize such a wide-ranging and disparate group, a fact that Fred Smith has been counting on for all these years. But even if it were possible, it would be unfair to penalize those "contractors" who do treat their employees responsibly by making them the subject of an effort to organize.
Fred (and his family) got theirs. His investors got theirs. The pilots got theirs. Now it's time for the drivers and ground workers to get theirs.
There are NO independent contractors at FedEx Express. The independent contractors that you read about in the news work for FedEx Ground. FedEx Ground falls under the NLRA and can organize any way, any time they like.
FedEx Express falls under the RLA. There are NO "contractors" driving trucks for FedEx Express. They are ALL FedEx Express employees. They are like the tug drivers/baggage loaders/mechanics, etc. at any other airline. They are governed by the RLA, which means that they can organize, but they have to do it nationwide. Just like most every other airline employee group in the country has been able to do.
So, to summarize... FedEx Ground and FedEx Express are two separate companies. FedEx Ground has the independent contractor driver issue. FedEx Express has the NLRA/RLA issue... and never the twain shall meet.
Capiche?
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