FDX - NWA/Delta Miles Compilation
 

Now that NWA and Delta are merging miles, has anyone seen any guidance from the company?

I have Delta miles that were earned AWAY from FDX that will soon be merged with my NWA miles (most from FDX DHs).

We, at FDx, still cannot "keep" miles on Delta while on FDX business. Any ideas if this will be modified?

Any info?

Good question ...

FYI ... I have been able to book the NW (code-share) flight number and lower fares (and miles) on my DL deadheads

I got a letter from Sky miles this week. Actually sounds pretty good. Any miles over 75k this year roll over next year to help you keep platinum. If you are a diamond guy (125K) the rollover obviously starts at 125K. It repeated several times that you get miles for all booking classes and fares.

FDXLag - The letter prompted the post -- received the same and surprised how positive it sounded.

FYI, if you are Silver and do not earn enough for Gold, will rollover the extra between Silver and Gold for next year.

Do you think FDX is working a new deal on airfares with DAL? Right now the same flight on DAL vs NW is about 3x more.

I think so.

Rollover Medallion Qualification Miles (MQMs): It's an airline first—any MQMs you've earned above your Medallion qualification level at the end of the year will rollover to your MQM balance for the following year. There's no limit.

When previously redeeming miles for "free" tickets, Delta has charged a large fee (~$70 if I remember right); NWA by contrast only dinged me a $5 processing fee. Not sure if that will also disappear when only "Delta Max" is in place.

Just bought a "miles only" round trip and got charged $75.00 by NWA online

$75.00?? Last week I got hit for only $10.00 on a domestic miles only ticket from NWA.

I bought a domestic ticket last month using FF miles and was charged $75.00. I am only silver elite and thus was charged a "redemption" fee. My guess is that if you are Gold or Platinum you don't get charged this fee.

The letters we are receiving in the mail from Delta Skymiles is due to our current elite status with NWA. We are simply on the customer mailing list.

The big question is whether we can continue to accrue miles as FedEx pilots once the merger is complete. As far as I know we only have agreements with AA and NWA to acquire and use the miles. I realize there are other creative ways to acquire miles but these are the only two company authorized ones that I know of. Case in point....the only FF numbers that Global travels uses when making a reservation is AA and NWA.

Also as mentioned above, the fares on Delta are way out of line compared to the equivalent on NWA. I bet most of our tight banks won't allow us to afford deviation tickets on Delta.

Except, the accepted fares are going to have to be based on Delta's fare, which could end up being a much better deal for commuters.

Where do you get the impression that accepted fares have to be based on Delta's listed fares? They currently don't seem to be based on ANY available fare, since the company frequently can't buy tickets
for the (non-deviating) crew on the scheduled airline at the "accepted" rate.

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I believe we're also allowed to accrue miles on United and Southwest. I'll gladly give you my remaining 400 NWA FF miles if I NEVER would have to ride on DL again. And no, I'm not bitter.:D

How can that be! :eek: I have it on reliable sources that accepted fares are based upon a contracted or agreed upon fare.

...Come to think of it, they couldn't tell me what date the accepted fare was based upon. Might have been a month before the trip it ended up being applied to.

Again, my letter said something to the effect of: All fares and booking classes will earn miles. While not a plane language guarantee, I am pretty sure or dh tickets fall into the category of all booking classes.

Or you could ask your block rep to ask the sig to ask the company.

Several thoughts?

"plane language"? Aviation pun or plain?

"I am pretty sure or dh tickets fall into the category of all booking classes." I don't think I'd make a large wager on that one? :eek:

That is the best part of puns, you don't have to plan them to take credit.

In that case we are stuck with a small wager.;)

You edited out the best part of my post. Someone should be able to find out. Don't we have like a DH commitee or something?

Fdxlag,

You are not supposed to get miles from Delta with a company bought deadhead ticket. You can now get NWA miles flying Delta. I've heard of some airlines "taking away" miles earned from deadhead travel (with no agreement in place). It would be easier if the company gets a deal with Delta and allows us to earn skymiles. I am not sure in this work environment if I would try and earn miles on another carrier that we do not have an agreement with. Management is on a witch hunt now and the smallest thing just might get you "investigated." Ok, maybe I'm paranoid.....

I'll bet the company will still use Delta for most deadheads. If they get a direct flight, it saves them money vs. earning more credit with a connecting flight. I guess it will obviously depend on the city you are deadheading to/from. Some will obviously not be impacted, but others will add some credit hours to the pairing.

I understand and have lots of NW miles flying delta. But they are merging and it does not hurt to ask. The delta letter said after the merger you will get miles from all fares and booking classes. I believe FDX pays a fare and uses several booking classes. If you remember 3rd grade english or 3rd grade math you will know some is a subset of all. I do not trust delta either. I have not merged my accounts, but it would not hurt to ask. The union asking the company to ask Delta seems an appropriate way to find out.

If we don't get delta miles I will be happy switching over to AA next year.

The Delta letter is going out to all NWA Elite members explaining they will continue to accrue miles on Delta once the merger of the FF programs is complete. This letter doesn't take into account the contractual agreement that FedEx has with Delta for fare prices. These contractual fares are based in part on whether we can accrue and use the FF miles. In the past and I have not read anything that has changed this policy, we as pilots were not allowed to accrue the FF miles on United, Delta and several other airlines. Even if you had a FF card for a particular airline you were not allowed to present it to a ticket agent for a company paid ticket. We used to get strongly worded emails and FCIF's reminding the pilot force of this policy. Then FedEx got new contracts with NWA and AA allowing us to accrue and use miles in their FF programs. Due to airline alliances we picked up miles on Continental, Delta, Alaska Airlines and a few others using our NWA FF number. Same thing with AA. The only two FF numbers that Global travel will currently use or keep on file for us is NWA and AA. When the Delta/NWA merger is complete our NWA FF number will change to a Delta FF number. We will have to wait and see if FedEx will allow Global travel to put that number in our profile and on our ticketed reservations.

We do get miles on UAL. There was a UAL customer service rep in AOC a few years ago signing us up for their frequent flier program .

Lag,

Do what you want to do. I don't think I'd do anything that is questionable right now. I also remember seeing emails forbidding us to accrue ff miles on carriers other than NWA (now AA and United). While it seems trivial, it appears that management is pursuing trivial matters.

I do agree that the union should talk to the company about this. FF miles are a good deal for us and I have enjoyed elite status for years.

That is all I said (several times), I like my NW miles (and I really like the upgrades). I hope I get them with delta (if you read the delta literature we should). If I don't I'll live. But I would rather find out sooner rather than later. I guess I'll write my block rep. I am sure he is done tracking down the ALPA contributions to the anti-anti-"health insurance reform" debate. Right Albie?

I believe the only time we don't get FF credit is if FDX has some deal with the airline to purchase tickets at a discount. If there is no discount, as in Deltas case, then we get FF credit.

FYI, Global travel has my DL skymiles number on file and I have been getting FF miles on Delta on my DHs for years (ever since FDX lost the discount they had with Delta five years ago or so). Global travel pays the same ticket price we would pay on the internet or on the Delta website so there is no reason we would not get FF credit.

I asked someone at Global Travel this question a few weeks back and they said they were pretty sure we could get the miles on Delta since the NWA/DAL merger went through. I don't know on what authority this comment was made, but I would feel more comfortable knowing the message came from someone who wouldn't punish us if we did wrong.

On a side note, I knew someone who commuted from the Houston area and used Continental for most of their travel. They would attach their NWA FF number to the ticket since CAL has a code share with NWA. I'm thinking that since it wasn't a NWA ticket they can't do this. Anyone know if this is legit?

Yes. it's legal. Been doing this very thing on Alaska, and other NW code-shares with NW miles for years. Northwest Elite services and Corp Travel have no problems with us doing this.

Same here, been doing this with Continental for at least 11 yrs. I've gotten plenty of upgrades in Continental and now Delta, as well.

The CAL slash NW code share and miles ends soon doesn't it?

When did you guys see these emails? I haven't seen one in 5 years and I meticulously keep every pertinent email and FCIF. If it's not in the contract and hasn't been officially told to current members than I hardly think it's set policy??

Yes, CAL is joining UAL in Star Alliance.

Continental to Join Star Alliance - WSJ.com

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US.../alliance.aspx

Can anyone tell me what deal they were offering when the rep was in AOC back then? Is there a number we can call to still try and get the same deal? Thanks all.

Mirrored your existing level.

I would suggest calling up your airline of choice and indicating that you are a "insert level" medallion frequent flyer contemplating changing your allegiance to either AA/UAL and ask if they would be willing to grant you a similar level as a courtesy.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...er-thread.html

Neat thread