How much longer will the 727 be at fed ex?
 

well? I love this bird

2014-2016???

When the last Fdx B-777 is retired to the boneyard, the 2-man crew will be flown back to Memphis on a Fdx B-727.;)

JJ

Only per D.O. approval.

We had a similary saying at UPS about the DC8 crew that would take the last 74/75/76/A300 crew back home...and the DC8's are now gone (along with our 72's). :p

B2P

January 18th, 2025 works for me... ;)

I know, fat chance. Training sux.

q2, 2014.

thank christ I'm not still driving her.

Purple Promised? :(

I used to driver her. Now, I'm in training in the back seat. You may thank Christ you're not driving her but I'd do anything to get my window seat back even on the slave ship. The coup de grace is after going through all of this madness and completing training, they reward you with another paycut... and at 55 CH. My fun meter is pegged.

They will fly them at least until the purple wears off of the tail, oh wait the paint is whats holding it together:D

In the Captains course last week they should a graph that indicated FY2015.

I still can recall the graphs we saw in '98 that showed 2004 with the caveat that they "may" have to keep some until 2006. There was no way around it as the emissions were the problem and the EPA wouldn't let us fly it past that time.. :rolleyes:

I can remember a 1987(?) Aviation Week article discussing FedEx's new A300's. It said it was FedEx's intention to retire 2 727's for every A300 received? I guess that didn't happen?

More recently I read that the 757 was going to be the 727 replacement? According to Capt. "O", it now seems to be an A310 replacement instead?

Maybe some future A380 order will end up being the 727 replacement? :eek:

12-31-12

Today in the Senate there is a bill to make commercial airlines have more efficient jets by 12-31-12 so as to save the planet of harmful greenhouse gases.

There was no mention of Congress and Pelosi relinquishing there jets and fly first class to reduce their carbon footprint.

What is the the bill called. Hadn't heard this one. What a way to kill the airline industry. Make an industry, that is an economic failure as a whole, invest in new equipment. All this following a horrible recession and high gas prices. Brilliant!

I am not saying the cleaner engines shouldn't be a desire, but don't airplanes only contribute 2-3% of green house emissions. I read an article regarding airplane emissions. The airlines have an desire too for efficient, clean airplanes. Helps their image as environmentally respsonible, and their bottom line. But the conclusion was, if this stuff is mandated by law, it could be a disaster for the airlines.

By the way, I am going to miss the Rumble of the 727/DC-9 and their smoke trails on final.

do you have enough 75's coming by 2014/15 to allow the retirement of the 727's without some major staffing problems?

I think we have major staffing problems now. I personally think we should have hired a lot more colonels and sergeants.

But, that's not really important. What I think we need to focus on, is if the retirement of the 727s is going to cause us to have too many pilots. We have somewhere around 300 guys listed as 727 S/Os after the latest system bid. Of course, that could be cancelled at any moment.

They say they are converting 1 a month. By 2011 they say we will have 35, and at a conservative 10 a year, by 2015 that would be 75. As far as training, they only have 1 sim. Not sure if they are getting another sim or not, I thought they were going to.

The 757 seems be a A310 replacement too. Talking to various MX guys, the 310-200s are MX pigs. The Chief Pilot said that the 757s are the most efficient airplane currently for the domestic system.

I am sure a 757 guy can answer better.

We are letting them kill the coal industry, the oil industry, the automobile industry, and increase the cost of everything we buy by 20%. The airline industry isn't the only thing that will rot.

I am sure their will be plenty of "green" jobs to make up for it.

I'm glad we worked on a higher payrate for the 85 757s coming instead of maintaining a single-minded focus on a A380 payrate :rolleyes:

Current conversion rate is 1.5/month (average). There are 2 simulators (located at Pan Am on T&B Blvd in Memphis. 3rd sim is on the way.
Aircraft is absolutely a fuel saving machine. Cruises at 380 to 410 at .80 with 45,000 pounds of freight burning a miserly 3300 per side. After coming off the 727, I had to recalibrate my thinking about fuel remaining versus distance to go.

FlyinHigh...UPS knew what it was doing back when they got them brand new. Too bad you don't have the 767, it's another fine machine by Boeing. But that 757 is such a pleasure to fly.

......2015