Lufthansa MD-11 Mexico City
10-10-2009, 03:52 PM
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Lufthansa MD-11 Mexico City
Accident: Lufthansa Cargo MD11 at Mexico City on Sep 13th 2009, hard landing
By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Oct 10th 2009 16:27Z, last updated Saturday, Oct 10th 2009 16:27Z
A Lufthansa Cargo McDonnell Douglas MD-11 freighter, registration D-ALCO performing freight flight GEC-8240 from Dallas Ft. Worth,TX (USA) to Mexico City (Mexico), touched down very hard at Mexico City's runway around 23:10L (Sep 14th 04:10Z). The airplane rolled out safely and taxied to the apron. No injuries occured.
A postflight inspection revealed wrinkles to the fuselage skin and a bent nose gear structure. The airplane is still in Mexico City awaiting decision whether to repair the airplane or write it off.
Metars:
MMMX 140648Z 00000KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK 60175 8/47/ HZY
MMMX 140548Z 18003KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK SLP098 52016 928 60165 8/47/ HZY
MMMX 140449Z 19005KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK 60225 8/46/ HZY
MMMX 140415Z 26004KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3030 RMK 8/96/ HZY RAE11 B-RA
MMMX 140345Z 27003KT 3SM RA BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3030 RMK 60155 8/96/ HZY -TSRAE41 BRA
By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Oct 10th 2009 16:27Z, last updated Saturday, Oct 10th 2009 16:27Z
A Lufthansa Cargo McDonnell Douglas MD-11 freighter, registration D-ALCO performing freight flight GEC-8240 from Dallas Ft. Worth,TX (USA) to Mexico City (Mexico), touched down very hard at Mexico City's runway around 23:10L (Sep 14th 04:10Z). The airplane rolled out safely and taxied to the apron. No injuries occured.
A postflight inspection revealed wrinkles to the fuselage skin and a bent nose gear structure. The airplane is still in Mexico City awaiting decision whether to repair the airplane or write it off.
Metars:
MMMX 140648Z 00000KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK 60175 8/47/ HZY
MMMX 140548Z 18003KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK SLP098 52016 928 60165 8/47/ HZY
MMMX 140449Z 19005KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK 60225 8/46/ HZY
MMMX 140415Z 26004KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3030 RMK 8/96/ HZY RAE11 B-RA
MMMX 140345Z 27003KT 3SM RA BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3030 RMK 60155 8/96/ HZY -TSRAE41 BRA
10-10-2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoreguy
The airplane rolled out safely and taxied to the apron. No injuries occured.
A postflight inspection revealed wrinkles to the fuselage skin and a bent nose gear structure. The airplane is still in Mexico City awaiting decision whether to repair the airplane or write it off.
A postflight inspection revealed wrinkles to the fuselage skin and a bent nose gear structure. The airplane is still in Mexico City awaiting decision whether to repair the airplane or write it off.
10-10-2009, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Avg Joe
Hmm... a landing hard enough to possibly total the aircraft and the crew taxis the aircraft to the gate. What am I missing?
2) the landing created permanent sets in the fuselage and wings which exceeds tolerances.
A while back (15yrs ago) we had a Capt take over from the F/O who started a go-around. George put the airplane on the runway VERY firmly. A few days later another F/O doing a morning preflight was shining his flashlight on the fuselage and noticed some shadows. There were ripples along the fuselage. George, it seems, had broken a few stringers with his firm landing. The airplane wasn't a write off but it did go to the shop for quite a while.
10-10-2009, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Avg Joe
Hmm... a landing hard enough to possibly total the aircraft and the crew taxis the aircraft to the gate. What am I missing?
(I saw the MX pix of the EVA and the Alitalia MD11 that shared the same fate as the LH Cargo)
The Alitalia was 20-30 mill to fix, today that would be a writeoff...
Cheers
George
Last edited by georgetg; 10-10-2009 at 06:28 PM. Reason: added Alitalia cost
10-10-2009, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
You should see the pix of the typical damage of these "events" It's pretty humbling knowing everybody walked away
(I saw the MX pix of the EVA and the Alitalia MD11 that shared the same fate as the LH Cargo)
The Alitalia was 20-30 mill to fix, today that would be a writeoff...
Cheers
George
(I saw the MX pix of the EVA and the Alitalia MD11 that shared the same fate as the LH Cargo)
The Alitalia was 20-30 mill to fix, today that would be a writeoff...
Cheers
George
10-10-2009, 09:03 PM
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Perhaps I need to be even MORE blunt for Some to understand...
The crew DESTROYS the aircraft on landing... a total loss!... but it's apparently a good-enough landing that they think it's not so out of the ordinary to taxi the DESTROYED aircraft to the gate?
The crew DESTROYS the aircraft on landing... a total loss!... but it's apparently a good-enough landing that they think it's not so out of the ordinary to taxi the DESTROYED aircraft to the gate?
10-10-2009, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Avg Joe
Perhaps I need to be even MORE blunt for Some to understand...
The crew DESTROYS the aircraft on landing... a total loss!... but it's apparently a good-enough landing that they think it's not so out of the ordinary to taxi the DESTROYED aircraft to the gate?
The crew DESTROYS the aircraft on landing... a total loss!... but it's apparently a good-enough landing that they think it's not so out of the ordinary to taxi the DESTROYED aircraft to the gate?
Lighten up Francis..... when's the last time you landed an 11? Its a goofy airframe to put down.
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