FDX - Back End DH Deviation Question
10-12-2009, 08:48 AM
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FDX - Back End DH Deviation Question
I apologize in advance to the grammar geeks for the run on sentence....
If I deviate on the back end of a trip to airport Y, can I get a personal (Non Dev. Bank) ride to airport X party and tailgate in the town of X like a rock star, then within 3 business days of arriving at Y buy an airline ticket that goes from Airport X-(subsequently through)Airport Y to Z(My Home)?
Anyone have any experience with this with Crew Travel audit? Thanks for the help!
JS-
If I deviate on the back end of a trip to airport Y, can I get a personal (Non Dev. Bank) ride to airport X party and tailgate in the town of X like a rock star, then within 3 business days of arriving at Y buy an airline ticket that goes from Airport X-(subsequently through)Airport Y to Z(My Home)?
Anyone have any experience with this with Crew Travel audit? Thanks for the help!
JS-
10-12-2009, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake Speed
I apologize in advance to the grammar geeks for the run on sentence....
If I deviate on the back end of a trip to airport Y, can I get a personal (Non Dev. Bank) ride to airport X party and tailgate in the town of X like a rock star, then within 3 business days of arriving at Y buy an airline ticket that goes from Airport X-(subsequently through)Airport Y to Z(My Home)?
Anyone have any experience with this with Crew Travel audit? Thanks for the help!
JS-
If I deviate on the back end of a trip to airport Y, can I get a personal (Non Dev. Bank) ride to airport X party and tailgate in the town of X like a rock star, then within 3 business days of arriving at Y buy an airline ticket that goes from Airport X-(subsequently through)Airport Y to Z(My Home)?
Anyone have any experience with this with Crew Travel audit? Thanks for the help!
JS-
Are you going to stay in City X for more than 24 hours?
8.C.4.d. Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
If they fire you I am sure you will be reinstated.
10-12-2009, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake Speed
I apologize in advance to the grammar geeks for the run on sentence....
If I deviate on the back end of a trip to airport Y, can I get a personal (Non Dev. Bank) ride to airport X party and tailgate in the town of X like a rock star, then within 3 business days of arriving at Y buy an airline ticket that goes from Airport X-(subsequently through)Airport Y to Z(My Home)?
Anyone have any experience with this with Crew Travel audit? Thanks for the help!
JS-
If I deviate on the back end of a trip to airport Y, can I get a personal (Non Dev. Bank) ride to airport X party and tailgate in the town of X like a rock star, then within 3 business days of arriving at Y buy an airline ticket that goes from Airport X-(subsequently through)Airport Y to Z(My Home)?
Anyone have any experience with this with Crew Travel audit? Thanks for the help!
JS-
FDXLAG covered it!
10-12-2009, 09:41 AM
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A personal example of an approved travel itenarary I did. Although it was on the front end for me, it is similar to your question.
My trip had a front end DH to FRA. I left home 3 days early, stopped for 2 days in CLE for a baseball game and deadheaded to FRA arriving one day early in FRA.
My trip had a front end DH to FRA. I left home 3 days early, stopped for 2 days in CLE for a baseball game and deadheaded to FRA arriving one day early in FRA.
10-12-2009, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Are you going to stay in City X for more than 24 hours?
8.C.4.d. Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
If they fire you I am sure you will be reinstated.
8.C.4.d. Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.
If they fire you I am sure you will be reinstated.
To summarize my options:
Fly to Y and deviate.
Personal ride to X. Debauchery ensues.
Lots of full, limited, expensive flights out of X.
Buy ticket X-A within 3 business days of Y trip and jumpseat to Z; or
personal ride to B and buy ticket B-Z.
With all these B's there should be a J in there somewhere....
Last edited by Jake Speed; 10-12-2009 at 10:04 AM. Reason: Wording, correction...alphabet soup.
10-12-2009, 01:10 PM
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Jake Speed - "It looks like my options might be different now anyway. Either X-A jumpseat to Z or another airport altogether B-Z..... Is X-A or B-Z an approved option the ultimate question. Clear as Mud? (IE can you spend your deviation bank money on any 2 cities within 3 days of a schedule trip.) Options? advice?"
The short answer is yes. I've done that very thing before. Jumpseated from IND to ORD at the end of a trip on Saturday, with a scheduled DH on Sunday. Stayed in ORD until Wed., and then used a deviation ticket from ORD through DFW to AUS to visit family (even though I live in Ca.). This was within the 3 calendar day limit of the scheduled end of the trip on Sunday. I could have left ORD on Tues., stopped in DFW for 24 hours, and proceeded on to AUS on Wed.
Again, the contract says, "Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally."
If you aren't sure about it, call Crew Travel Audit, tell them what you would like to do, and confirm it is legal.
The short answer is yes. I've done that very thing before. Jumpseated from IND to ORD at the end of a trip on Saturday, with a scheduled DH on Sunday. Stayed in ORD until Wed., and then used a deviation ticket from ORD through DFW to AUS to visit family (even though I live in Ca.). This was within the 3 calendar day limit of the scheduled end of the trip on Sunday. I could have left ORD on Tues., stopped in DFW for 24 hours, and proceeded on to AUS on Wed.
Again, the contract says, "Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally."
If you aren't sure about it, call Crew Travel Audit, tell them what you would like to do, and confirm it is legal.
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