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Laughing_Jakal

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MX727

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What I want for Christmas:

No draft flying by anyone
Everyone eligible takes Mil Leave

And management gets a big fat 4.A.2.b sandwich of manning issues.

Jetjok

Yeah, that'll show the bastards! Perhaps instead of instituting 4.A.2.b, the company should have just put the bottom guys that weren't needed, on the street. Bet that would have made a bunch of guys happy. Probably not those let go, but oh well, all's fair in love and war.

JJ

MX727

You totally missed the problem with 4.a.2.b and you obviously have not paid any attention to what I have written in the past about 4.a.2.b. I wrote a fairly detailed post about how 4.a.2.b was originally obtained and why it was a noble thought. In fact, early in the year, someone on hear accused me of being management. LOL.

So, just to be clear, I'm very happy we didn't put anyone on the street, but I'm ****ed that they are offering so much draft to some, while others are left struggling at sub-60 hour months since last February.

The company has not applied 4.a.2.b. fairly across the board. From all evidence, they should have exited 4.a.2.b prior to peak and now they are relying on draft to man the trips. Had we exited 4.a.2.b, the lines would've been built to a level that would've allowed them to man the trips AND have sufficient RSV to cover the holidays.

Furthermore, this thread is about FedEx's illegal treatment of military members when they exercise their USERRA rights.

So, I stand by my opinion that I think our management is making some serious miscalculations, which are going to cause service failures and cost the company in the very near term.

FDXFLYR

I don't mean to poke Chuck Turpen in the eye with this, I'm asking a serious question: how can any management supporters out there justify this one? ...LK just doing his job? ...No big deal, just talk to management and everything will magically be okay? ...just innocent questions management should be able to ask?

I'm really not looking for the black helicopters to circle my house (however, the equipment that Blackwater USA operates IS pretty cool) but I do really believe that management is not so innocent as to be making honest, well-intentioned mistakes. I think management really is knowingly committing very serious, unlawful behavior which establishes a record of harassment. And if anyone needs further evidence that LK's behavior is completely out of bounds, this is it.

I've been curious just how unattached CB is from LK and would be more confident in our grievance committee's independence from management if he filed a grievance on this. To allow management unfettered questioning that seems to clearly violate Federal protections appears to me to be an easy and winnable target for his committee.

Chuck Turpen

If all this is true then turn the evidence over to ALPA and the Military lawyers and let the process run the course.

If you read the MLA info ALPA put out it should be clear that it is within your rights not to justify your MLA at all, period, end of discussion.

So if your caller ID doesn't work and you wind up talking to someone who is violating your rights you should already have the appropriate legal offical's phone number to pass them off to.

Act! Don't whine. I would be very surprised if the Military would allow these alleged actions to continue. In a prior post someone said the purpose of these kind of posts was to keep everyone informed. I see no posts where action has been taken.

Having said that I do feel it is the Reservist's responsibility to give the company as much notice as possible. It is the responsible thing to do. Calling the Duty Officer at 6pm on Friday night to get off of a trip for Saturday drill weekend while within your legal rights is irresponsible. (Yes it happened and I was the DO and I took him off his trip)


If you wind up having to serve your country on a holiday, my sincere thanks to you, and I mean it. I know what it is like.

Osmosis

Unfortunately, any violations of the our contractual language of USERRA, and USERRA itself, apparently is not a grievance issue. Instead, violations must be forwarded thru USERRA and the federal government by a program called VETS. When a violation is reported, the government will research the violation to determine if the company was in the wrong. If they determine the company was in the wrong and violated your rights, you have the option to hire your own attorney to fight for any loss of wages, benefits, etc. Otherwise, the company gets a slap on the wrist and told not to do that again.



What does that mean to us? It means if your USERRA rights have been violated by management, no matter how blatant and gross, the only ALPA support you can expect to receive is where online to file your grievance, and any recommendations they may have on the subject. S.M. (Mil Chair) will help you find the regs and explain how to file your USERRA violation, and may even offer recommendations and his opinion on the matter. Contract enforcement and the grievance committee may not even approach the subject. As far as having the Union go after the violation, it is my understanding they can't and won't.



If someone has different info, I'd love to hear it.

Osmosis

[quote=Chuck Turpen;716814]
Act! Don't whine. I would be very surprised if the Military would allow these alleged actions to continue. In a prior post someone said the purpose of these kind of posts was to keep everyone informed. I see no posts where action has been taken.
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My understanding is some violations have been recently reported, but the process is not very expeditious.

Chuck Turpen

[quote=Osmosis;716816]Having been subjected to two and a half years of useless legal wrangling in our judicial system I can understand frustration with the pace at which it moves.

I've been retired for about 11 years so am out of the loop on these matters.

Does anyone who is taking action have any useful phone numbers for Military Officials that they could post to help out the rest involved in similar cases????