Flea Bite

The best advice for this board, coming from a passenger hauler but hopefully future freight dog.

hatetobreakit2u

right on, theres too many wimps afraid to strike nowadays!
strikes and unions are what got us out of slave labor textiles factory's in the 1800 and 1900's!

av8r4aa

There are so damn many selfish pilots at AA just trying to max out their month.
I look at this way............ AMR (AA) is a big giant breast. It is full of milk (see money)

When all the milk is gone then there ain't no more.

That is the reason why I am commuting to reserve. WAAY too many money
*****s out there trying to keep up with the Joneses (SEE DFW)
Thus preventing me from moving up. If everyone stayed out of open time AA
would have to recall 500 people ASAP.

But all the spineless wimps sucking on the AA nipple.

Priority 3

no flights at UPS have been stranded thanks to a lack of pilots. UPS is doing just fine.

amucks

Just out of curiousity, which conditions have deteriorated to the point that you feel this way as a passenger "hauler"?

surreal1221

I'm just going to guess. He prolly isnt happy hauling people that are undercutting his wages. Paying $200 for a round trip ticket, that costs the company over a grand to operate.

Low air fares need to goto hell, except at SWA, Air Tran, and JBU.

amucks

Ahh...so it's the passengers who are undercutting his wages and not the company that he works for. Got it. Fair enough, damn the free market economy, and human nature that will take what it can get for the least amount of money.

surreal1221

Wal-Mart operates just the same. Hey lets pay a foriegn poor person .15 a day to generate a product for us that costs .50 to make, and then we can sell it to dumb fat Americans for 8.99 because you know what. . . they will pay for it, and it's cheaper here than over at the yuppie Target place where they charge 13.99 and pay their employees a fair wage, AND they don't undercut foriegn workers.

Yes, paying your employees absolutely nothing for what they do is perfectly okay. This mentality is why the middle class has seen no progress over the past 6 years. Why the middle class continues to think they can live outside of their means by going deep into debt via a Hummer or 400k house. Why minimum wage hasn't been increased in over 10 years, where the 4 years before the current wage cap it had increased each year.

The passengers are paying what they are offered, by the company. The company is responsible. If being angered at your company doesnt generate anything. . . take out your frustrations in the office against he passengers who are willing to pay nearly nothing for a product that costs a lot.

Eventually things will have to turn around, and eventually. . . people will have to pay a real price for a plane ticket or return back to Greyhound and enjoy the bus ride. Only a matter of time.

amucks

Not sure what we disagree on here. I echo your sentament about exploiting labor for the sake of ENORMOUS profit, but I don't think it's practical to think that Joe Soap will pay more to fly from ORD-LAX because he is so symapthetic to ALPA et al that he will compromise his families vacation to prove a point that in the end serves him no means. Unless and until there is REAL change in the profit motive and in DC....stasis.

Question, oil refinery workers are unionized, no? Would you pay 6 bucks a gallon to add to Petrobas' bottom line ergo "adding value" to the company, ergo, in theory adding value a rig workers job? Answer truthfully....

surreal1221

My misunderstanding then. I appologize.

In regards to oil, no, I would not support their union to generate added costs for their union members.

What I would be willing to do is support the company to find other ways to generate a profit, BESIDES reducing labor costs (hence protecting worker's wages).

Example, if increasing gas costs by .5c (certainly knowing the worlds usage five cents is an acceptable rate to increase, in turn providing a pile of cash to goto the workers), I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's raising costs significantly, so abruptly that causes the concern for the customer. A gradual rate hike is fine, five cents right off the bat is perfect, we see larger fluxs now WITHOUT the profits going to the employees. Big oil in America as the example, obese bastards.

Five cents for each gallon, to say 1 million gallons = $500,000. Say on average, across the world, 10 million gallons of petrol are bought daily. After just one day of .5 increase, at 10 million gallons, a profit of $5,000,000. Do it daily, that's a hell of a lot of extra funds to the employees. It could be a two times a year deal, and whatever extra profits get split to each employee's retirement fund, or however you see it fit.

It won't happen because the rich keep getting richer. In America it's because naive middle American's keep voting for good ol' boy officials, listening to their lies because "They don't know any better."