T/A reached at UPS
 

Just received an email from the IPA. No info yet, but a deal has been struck:

rumour only,

Retirees get the Flat Rate retirement package
Captains get a 17% raise ( approx 223 per hour)
F/Os get the slope corrected equaling an approx 26% raise
Medical premiums that we pay, go up
Medical Cap doubles
No mention of Medical after retirement like the Mgr's get.
Full Retro- unknown.
Scope improved
Scheduling mirrors what we already have heard.

This is the first TA to be reached, my prediction is that it will be voted down.

Those pay rates suk. You guys should hang your head in shame is you vote that POS in.

Figures, we get more info from the company site than our own union. See below.

“This tentative agreement has been unanimously approved and endorsed by both the IPA Executive Board and its pilot negotiating committee and is one we will present to our membership for ratification without hesitation,” said IPA President Tom Nicholson. “It includes immediate improvements to pay as well as percentage increases in future years while also improving pension benefits and work rules.”

“We have negotiated a fair, balanced contract that’s good for our pilots and good for the company,” said John Beystehner, UPS’s chief operating officer and president of UPS Airlines. “We are pleased the IPA leadership team fully endorses the agreement.”

Both Nicholson and Beystehner said they “commend the National Mediation Board (NMB) for its guidance during negotiations and especially the expertise provided by Linda Puchala, our primary mediator. The NMB has been instrumental in getting us to this point and provided the resources we needed, including the services of John Livingood, who also participated as a mediator.”

I think that they said 100 a month for retiree medical?
retro is not full but the 60/40/34 plan payable in two installments

There is nothing on the company web site. You should have the full agreement in your hands momentarilly via the IPA web site. Not bad for a holiday weekend. They are typing the last minute things in as we speak

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PS- Time for a new hat. Retro "bonus" sucks

I am new to UPS and coming from a legacy carrier, I have no idea about retro? What is 60/40/34?

Thanks if advance.:o

UPS, Pilots Reach Tentative Labor Deal
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LOUISVLLE, Ky. (AP) - United Parcel Service Inc. and its pilots' union said Friday they have reached a tentative agreement on a new labor contract.

"We have negotiated a fair and balanced contract that's good for our pilots and good for the company," said John Beystehner, UPS's chief operating officer and president of UPS Airlines.

The company and union said they will not disclose details of the agreement until UPS' 2,700 pilots vote on it. The Independent Pilots Association union said it has endorsed the agreement and expects a rank-and-file vote to be completed by mid-September.

The company and union said only that the contract offers wage and pension improvements, as well as work-rule changes. It would run until the end of 2011.

"This tentative agreement has been unanimously approved and endorsed by both the IPA Executive Board and its pilot negotiating committee and is one we will present to our membership for ratification without hesitation," said IPA President Tom Nicholson. "It includes immediate improvements to pay as well as percentage increases in future years while also improving pension benefits and work rules."

Both the union and company thanked the National Mediation Board for its help during negotiations. Atlanta-based UPS and its pilots had been in federal mediation since June 2004.

UPS shares closed down 44 cents at $82.33 on the New York Stock Exchange.

© 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

sort of your signing bonus to help you vote for a weak deal <G>. It is retroactive money to make up for the raise you didn't get when you should have 60k for captains, 40k for FO's and pfe's, 34 k for FE's. Makes that yes vote a little more tempting, no?

Does that mean that a newhire f/o gets the same $40K as an f/o that has been there 5 years? If so, that's total BS.

you wouldn't say that if you were the f/o that had been one for 1 week. Sorry that you feel it is a bunch of bull. Should it make the 5 year guy feel better if the newhire f/o got a worse deal?

Did you mention where you worked?

Actually that's an interesting question. Do you have to be off probation to receive the payout, or just on the property at the DOS? Or would it go by date of announcement?

Everyone on property at the date of signing gets a bite of the apple. For probationary members it is as follows

2. Crewmembers who are in probationary status on the date of ratification shall be paid
retroactive pay based on the difference between the hourly rates in the new and prior
Agreement and the number of guaranteed hours paid as a probationary employee.


I'm going to have to say that I am amazed at how quickly they have gotten the information out to us.

You have to be off of probation to receive the payout according to #2 of the bonus section. The probationary pilot gets retro from the difference of the new rate (which is less than stellar) from the old rate multiplied by hours of guarantee accumulated as a probationary pilot.

Did they improve the Newbie pay?

A buddy of mine just called and said that their newhire pay is now a whopping $33.33/hr! Where do I sign up?

Not by much:

(T/A rates)

don't bother.

Don't worry, I'm not going to bother to apply there with those pitiful pay rates. Industry leading my a$$. ABX already makes way more per hour than your PROPOSED rates!

Me detects ALOT of envy...:eek:

Well good, be sure to apply there when you get out of Riddle my friend

Dude you have to be a real pilot to apply. Not someone living in a make believe world. If you have something constructive to say go ahead, if not go back to your gay boys websight.

the deal is mostly concessionary once you read it. Pay is increased by a pitiful amount (less than 2% for captains) when adjusted for inflation only. Scheduling is concessionary except there are 30 min less duty time, and domestic tickets to position/deposition for a trip. International DH is increased to 18 hours of duty. Line holder days off are the same at 11 days per month. Company flexibility is increased with line holders and reserves. Reserves take a huge hit regarding company flexibility. Reserve call out times are still 1:30. And remember, there are about 35% - 40% reserves at UPS.

Before you guys go casting stones about how everyone else is looking for a job and taking pay cuts and we should do the same, remember that UPS makes over 1 BILLION every three months in PROFIT. No mention was made of "profit sharing." UPS does obviously not want the pilots ot have any type of profit sharing...........the profits are too big.

This thing aint gonna fly for me. I would rather live under the current contract than endure the new one with a small pay raise.

You're unrealistic and ridiculous so please....don't sign up. We don't want you here.

Vote NO, go on strike and just look at all the commuter pilots that will be lined up to take your job! Scab is not a dirty word anymore. ALPA took them all back with open arms!

Which one is it? :confused:

Should the UPS pilots vote yes on these "pathetic payrates", or vote no and eventually maybe go on strike? You sound like you are trying to tell them not to go on strike, so that commuter pilots won't take their jobs. You also tell them to vote no to these low pay rates, so they can get a potentially better offer.

Which one is it? :confused:

I agree, this TA is worse than what we have now. I want more!

How is it worse?

What do you want?