FedEx to airlift medical aid to Haiti
01-15-2010, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Historically whenever a new destination was opened, it was first "visited" by either a management crew or a flight standards crew. Why should this be any different? The important thing is FedEx is bringing in much needed supplies to a country that currently has less than nothing.
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Kudos to FedEx. I think the quote I heard from a 4 star Navy Admiral yesterday in an update brief on Haiti Ops was..."This country went from having nothing to negative nothing, let's move out on this"
01-16-2010, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BDGERJMN
Kudos to FedEx. I think the quote I heard from a 4 star Navy Admiral yesterday in an update brief on Haiti Ops was..."This country went from having nothing to negative nothing, let's move out on this"
01-16-2010, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
It makes perfect sense to send your most non-current pilots to new destinations.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
01-16-2010, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Turpen
They do it because they need someone they can rely upon to make it to move the plane without getting a deviation failure, or checking in for their trip that leaves from Denver while they are still snowbound in Detroit. They also need people that are smart enough to get rest whenever they can so that they can safely operate past when most of you would be whining to go to the hotel or stop the jet because you didn't get what you ordered on your catering.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
01-16-2010, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Turpen
They do it because they need someone they can rely upon to make it to move the plane without getting a deviation failure, or checking in for their trip that leaves from Denver while they are still snowbound in Detroit. They also need people that are smart enough to get rest whenever they can so that they can safely operate past when most of you would be whining to go to the hotel or stop the jet because you didn't get what you ordered on your catering.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
Chuck, I have read many of your posts and respect you for being so fortright and honest about who you are. Most on this forum won't do that. But this post is a blatant blast at the folks who make this company as successful as it is, the line dog crew member. You have painted them with a very broad brush. I was on the "other side" of the door for 5 years and can tell you that many of my collleagues were and still are, as the post claimed, the least competent folks to do the job of flying to new places. And to not use the same brush as you, this is not an indictment of all the folks who work out of an office in 3131 Democrat. But to make the statement that you did about this crew force is irresponsible.
01-16-2010, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Turpen
They do it because they need someone they can rely upon to make it to move the plane without getting a deviation failure, or checking in for their trip that leaves from Denver while they are still snowbound in Detroit. They also need people that are smart enough to get rest whenever they can so that they can safely operate past when most of you would be whining to go to the hotel or stop the jet because you didn't get what you ordered on your catering.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
Back after the tsunami, I was the f/o on an airplane that left Dubai, landed in Colombo, Sri Lanka, and continued to HKG...we helped the Sri Lankan AF cadets offload, by hand, 8 water purifiers that weighed more than I care to remember. If I recall correctly, we got picked off a regular trip, and really didn't get paid much more than trip guarantee. It was a 17hr+ duty day, we only had the catering from Dubai, we filed our own flight plans, copied our own jepps...I think an intelligent person like you gets the picture...
Anyway, my point is, I would be willing to bet my first born that 90% of us would have done the same thing and would do it again now.
Please think, and put down the purple alcoholic kool aid before you post something like the above.
I find it insulting and rather demeaning.
please feel free to contact me and discuss, you can find me in VIPS.
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I know how you feel about "transparency" on here so...
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01-16-2010, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Turpen
They do it because they need someone they can rely upon to make it to move the plane without getting a deviation failure, or checking in for their trip that leaves from Denver while they are still snowbound in Detroit. They also need people that are smart enough to get rest whenever they can so that they can safely operate past when most of you would be whining to go to the hotel or stop the jet because you didn't get what you ordered on your catering.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
These people in Haiti aren't going to be late on their house payment because of poor planning and 4A2b. They don't have homes. They aren't worried about what their daughters are going to drive to the preppy college this year. They are digging them out from under a pile of rubble.
When you need the TD you give the ball to the ones that perform.
Chuck,
Maybe the most insulting post you've made? Maybe you got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
So far as I'm concerned, ALL flights should be listed in open time and assigned to LINE DOGS. If you management weenies want to bump me off my trip (and I stay home with pay), then that's just fine with me.
Let's face it ... is PC really any more qualified to fly a jet to PAP than I am? Not likely!*? With your whiney pilot scenario, maybe management pilots should fly ALL flights? I might get tired (after adequate crew rest) and want my (contractually provided) catering?
Your posts usually make more sense than this? I'm disappointed ...
Mark
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01-16-2010, 08:22 AM
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Charters from MEM to DEN and MIA to SDQ were in open time for about 3 secs yesterday, not sure who is flying it but those 11,000' runways at sea level in the Dominican Rep. are tricky, probably best if it's flown by our "pathfinder" pilots who don't eat or sleep
Is that tip of the spear flying or base of the shaft flying?
Is that tip of the spear flying or base of the shaft flying?
01-16-2010, 08:29 AM
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Chuck,
It must of been a really bad week to give up sniffing glue, because even you must realize the folly of your statement. Personally, I don't care who is flying the goods to the folks on Haiti, I'm just glad that someone is, and that those much needed supplies are getting into the hands of the people who can do the most good.
I do agree that we have our share of whiners here, but those same whiners are the guys who move the freight, each and every night, in all sorts of weather conditions, throughout the year. It's those guys who pay your salary. Remember, the people who touch the end product, in our case, the boxes, o'night envelopes, etc, etc, are those who earn money for the corporation, and it's everyone else, ie, management, schedulers, professional trainers, etc, etc, who are considered indirect labor, or an expense to the corporation.
Regardless, if you end up flying supplies into Haiti, Thanks. If it ends up being a line crew, I'm sure the plane will get there just as well as if a management crew had done the flying.
JJ
It must of been a really bad week to give up sniffing glue, because even you must realize the folly of your statement. Personally, I don't care who is flying the goods to the folks on Haiti, I'm just glad that someone is, and that those much needed supplies are getting into the hands of the people who can do the most good.
I do agree that we have our share of whiners here, but those same whiners are the guys who move the freight, each and every night, in all sorts of weather conditions, throughout the year. It's those guys who pay your salary. Remember, the people who touch the end product, in our case, the boxes, o'night envelopes, etc, etc, are those who earn money for the corporation, and it's everyone else, ie, management, schedulers, professional trainers, etc, etc, who are considered indirect labor, or an expense to the corporation.
Regardless, if you end up flying supplies into Haiti, Thanks. If it ends up being a line crew, I'm sure the plane will get there just as well as if a management crew had done the flying.
JJ
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