Looks like they met for 2.5 hours today with no agreement. They have agreed to meet again, but no date has been set.

 

Anybody have any intel - inside information- as to what "shared concepts" are?

 

It can't be good ... what benefit has UPS ever wanted to "share" with its hourlys without a fight. ?

They probably want that language FedEx has in that 4a2b thing. RDGs at the company's discretion and control. IOW, not on a voluntary basis.

I spoke with another 300 member who has a few airline uniforms in his closet as well. We both contend that it is no longer about the money. We gave them over 90% of the goal and somehow NOW their Magic 8 Ball forecasts a possible furlough until 2015. Give me a friggin' break ...

It is now about more than money. It is about contract concessions and even more about control of a part time work force ... or so it seems, it probably always was.

 

Heard preferential bidding system VERY prominate in the discussions. JUST SAY NO folks! Good luck, you all...

 

I agree with your analysis. It's unfortunate, but it seems that the IPA was negotiating in good faith while UPS was not. The agreement to take less than 100% last spring, guarentee no furloughs til now and then come back to the table was a pretty shrewd tactic on the company's part. Once we have a certain amount invested in no furloughs, they want to see if we're willing to make concessions to not forfeit "sunk costs." 1st rule of managerial accounting: NEVER make future decisons based on sunk costs. They really couldn't furlough last summer anyway without serious risk to an uninterrupted peak. We're gonna know about furloughs by March at the latest... past that, they bump up against potential peak interruptions again.

I've been fairly optimistic to this point, but I'm starting to think it's misplaced optimism. Increasing system efficiency may well have efficiented ourselves out of work for a few years.

Don't open the contract...

 

Oh God, please say NO.

No matter how they spin it, PBS is bad - FOR EVERYONE!

 

What the heck is "preferential bidding system"?

 

use wikipedia to find out what PBS is.

 

PBS--------> NO NO NO!

Before anyone comes on here and says how great it was at Brand X, remember that our system is NOTHING like the pax guys and no matter what rules and parameters are negotiated, UPS doesn't even follow our current contract! As many have said, if UPS REALLY wants this, that fact right there should scare the crap out of you to say NO to PBS.

 

I had PBS at brand Z. Read this carefully ...

In a PERFECT world PBS could be a nice bidding system.

NOT in the system that "synchronizes the world of commerce"