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03-14-2015, 10:15 PM
#52
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: B747 Left
Posts: 1,342
Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
What do you work rules say about pay for picking up open time? 150%?
OT is how you make good money here (the 10.85 hour days are $1,000+ each as an FO), but I would personally rather have better pay for days on instead.
03-15-2015, 08:30 AM
#54
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: FO
Posts: 525
Originally Posted by NightIP
Just to clarify captainv's post, you'll get 6.85 hours for the first day (2+4.85), 8.85 hours for the second day (4+4.85), then 10.85 hours/day (6+4.85) for each day after that (assuming you're out voluntarily). If you're extended involuntarily (rules apply there), the first three days remain the same as above, but the fourth day is worth 16.85 hours (12+4.85). Very rare, though.
OT is how you make good money here (the 10.85 hour days are $1,000+ each as an FO), but I would personally rather have better pay for days on instead.
OT is how you make good money here (the 10.85 hour days are $1,000+ each as an FO), but I would personally rather have better pay for days on instead.
Actually another question then. So if you pick up OT at the end of a trip out of CVG, say a NRT turn and back (CVG based) with 12 hrs rest in between?
So 14 hrs cvg to nrt, then 13 hrs back TAFB being approx 40 hrs (I've never done that flight just guessing). The block is just about the same as the OT above? Are the 2+, 4+, and 6+ added on to the duty rig or the flight time per day?
Last edited by HVYMETALDRVR; 03-15-2015 at 08:47 AM.
03-15-2015, 08:51 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
Are the 2+, 4+, and 6+ added on to the duty rig or the flight timeper day?
So yes, in your example, you'd get 27 hours of pay, plus the 2, 4, 6 (we'll say the trip touches three Z days). 39 hours of pay.
We don't see that kind of credit efficiency on the 767 though, so our rig almost always exceeds the block credit. The 747 guys can overfly rig at times with the long leg lengths.
03-15-2015, 08:54 AM
#56
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: FO
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Originally Posted by NightIP
Good question. What happens at the end of the trip is they compare your credits (block/deadhead) to your rig, and go with whatever is higher. In your example, they'd compare the rig for 40 hours TAFB (~8 hours) to your block (27 hours).
So yes, in your example, you'd get 27 hours of pay, plus the 2, 4, 6 (we'll say the trip touches three Z days). 39 hours of pay.
We don't see that kind of credit efficiency on the 767 though, so our rig almost always exceeds the block credit. The 747 guys can overfly rig at times with the long leg lengths.
So yes, in your example, you'd get 27 hours of pay, plus the 2, 4, 6 (we'll say the trip touches three Z days). 39 hours of pay.
We don't see that kind of credit efficiency on the 767 though, so our rig almost always exceeds the block credit. The 747 guys can overfly rig at times with the long leg lengths.
03-16-2015, 07:43 AM
#58
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
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Night IP I'm not sure if this is what you meant but when you pick up open time it is based on a daily basis. so if on day one I fly 14 hrs. it would be 14+2 if I fly 13 on the second day it would be 27+4, and so on it's the best of rig or actual or schedule block per day on OT.
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