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AirHead328 02-12-2010 02:36 PM

FedEx "B" Scale
 
So who else on the 727 is tired of seeing the growing trend we knew was coming?

As they shift the workforce around, the 727 is effectively becoming a B scale as every other fleet is back to near normal BLG or above.

This is ridiculous, I say we have to say no more. Otherwise, by mid-year, every other fleet will be making 75+ hours while we scrap by on 55. That aint sharing the pain, it's a B scale for the most junior pilots.

MaydayMark 02-12-2010 03:06 PM

Dude ... I'm not sure why you believe you are the only one feeling the pain (maybe they're just picking on you?)?

I just read the SIG update that arrived in my email inbox a half hour ago. My (11MEMCA) RLG next month is only 62 hrs!*? Maybe you should read it. I agree that the pain is not evenly spread but there are lots of us taking it up the 4a2b!

Gunter 02-12-2010 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 763088)
Dude ... I'm not sure why you believe you are the only one feeling the pain (maybe they're just picking on you?)?

I just read the SIG update that arrived in my email inbox a half hour ago. My (11MEMCA) RLG next month is only 62 hrs!*? Maybe you should read it.

Yes, reading it would be good. Some of what it says--

MD 11 CA MEM is at a 65 hr average and rising every month. 727 CA and SO at 60 hrs.

Your RLG, as a percentage of the line average, is proportionately higher.

OR told us the plan was to put all the extra pilots in the 727.

B scale it is and will be until an arbitrator rules otherwise.

Auger In 02-12-2010 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 763088)
Dude ... I'm not sure why you believe you are the only one feeling the pain (maybe they're just picking on you?)?

I just read the SIG update that arrived in my email inbox a half hour ago. My (11MEMCA) RLG next month is only 62 hrs!*? Maybe you should read it. I agree that the pain is not evenly spread but there are lots of us taking it up the 4a2b!

The 727 has been hit the hardest and their crews have suffered the largest financial hit percentage-wise of any other fleet. That's a fact. The disproportionate sacrifice they have suffered is criminal. Their pay has become what amounts to a B scale. You need to step back and look at this in perspective. Though your RLG as an MD CA may be 62 hours, you're making somewhere around $230/hour. There are junior S/Os making barley $100/hour at 55+ hours a month. Your financial hit, though painful to you, doesn't even come close to what a 727 S/O is feeling. There are 200 S/Os that would love to trade places with you in a second. Relax, have a drink and stop complaining about how rough you have it while you're fortunate enough to be in the upper tier of the pay-scale.

Busboy 02-12-2010 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Auger In (Post 763126)
The 727 has been hit the hardest and their crews have suffered the largest financial hit percentage-wise of any other fleet. That's a fact. The disproportionate sacrifice they have suffered is criminal. Their pay has become what amounts to a B scale. You need to step back and look at this in perspective. Though your RLG as an MD CA may be 62 hours, you're making somewhere around $230/hour. There are junior S/Os making barley $100/hour at 55+ hours a month. Your financial hit, though painful to you, doesn't even come close to what a 727 S/O is feeling. There are 200 S/Os that would love to trade places with you in a second. Relax, have a drink and stop complaining about how rough you have it while you're fortunate enough to be in the upper tier of the pay-scale.

You left out the part about being fortunate to be getting a paycheck.:confused:

MD11Fr8Dog 02-12-2010 05:18 PM

We're still so overmanned that today I was launched, off of MD11 CAP B reserve, on a 4 day trip, DH to STN to operate back RF2 relief pilot!:confused:

The only good I can report about this, other than my leveling, is that the Makers in the O'Hare Flagship lounge is hitting the spot! :cool: Hope I can remember how to do a walk-around, sort the catering and count the pillows and blankets!:rolleyes:

BTW - this was a VTO line converted to Reserve while blowing off my number request for days off!

Auger In 02-12-2010 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 763135)
You left out the part about being fortunate to be getting a paycheck.:confused:

You're right. There are 300 UPS pilots who are going to be furloughed and who will soon receive no paychecks at all. A buddy of mine there told me his furlough notice was mailed two days ago. He has nowhere else to go... at least as far as a flying jobs go.

MD10PLT 02-12-2010 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 763135)
You left out the part about being fortunate to be getting a paycheck.:confused:

Did you vote yes on the contract. I believe it had a clause which most believed to be a share the pain clause. You must have missed that part.

You must be one of the two guys who stood up at the union meeting advocating for a furlough.

Busboy 02-12-2010 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by MD10PLT (Post 763154)
Did you vote yes on the contract. I believe it had a clause which most believed to be a share the pain clause. You must have missed that part.

You must be one of the two guys who stood up at the union meeting advocating for a furlough.

Really? You got all that from my post?

That's simply amazing.

flywithjohn 02-12-2010 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 763156)
Really? You got all that from my post?

That's simply amazing.

It really is ain't it?


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