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Old 02-23-2010, 03:47 PM
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What language forces them to leave the IPA when taking a management job? IPA or UPS requirement that managers not be on the seniority list?
ups has always insisted on it
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ups has always insisted on it
Insisted? I guess that is one way to look at it.
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Insisted? I guess that is one way to look at it.
what other way is there? What am I missing?
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what other way is there? What am I missing?

Bad attempt at sarcasm I guess.
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Originally Posted by 767pilot View Post
what other way is there? What am I missing?
Greed? Nothing else 'forced' the line pilots-gone-bad to leave the IPA and give up their seniority.

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Old 02-24-2010, 02:32 AM
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What language forces them to leave the IPA when taking a management job? IPA or UPS requirement that managers not be on the seniority list?
They were offered this option at hiring or crossed over from the IPA to management. For the last 15 years, it has been FOs crossing over to be Cpts in 30 days, then check airmen....nice system huh
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Greed? Nothing else 'forced' the line pilots-gone-bad to leave the IPA and give up their seniority.
Basically cutting in line in the seniority system.
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I'm curious if the scope discussions will also review the non-UPS aircraft that provide lift for UPS during peak and in Europe and Asia while we have pilots on furlough.

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I'm curious if the scope discussions will also review the non-UPS aircraft that provide lift for UPS during peak and in Europe and Asia while we have pilots on furlough.

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Ding-Ding-Ding. We have a winner! Yes interesting times we are having right now.

Upper management are either idiots or geniuses. Using RIF language to get everyone trained. (no...not the guys out there flying the line, they are not management. Management is clearly defined. They very clearly are not!) Talking about the guys in Atlanta.

Interesting times.
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