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OnStep 03-08-2010 09:34 PM

Union Cards sent to UPS Flt Qual MGRs??
 
Any UPSers out there with info about union cards being sent to Managers? Saw a post on the Union web site that cards had been mailed to mgrs, but the posts were subsequently removed from the web board.

Commando 03-09-2010 07:59 AM

I heard at the sort the last week, that BT has told UPS management that he is going forward. This is one of the reasons UPS walked away from the Savings.

BM had UPS had a handshake agreement since 1996. This is why BM never followed through on his campaign promises. Once BT wouldn't kiss there butt on this issue, UPS decided to furlough. IMO.

757upspilot 03-09-2010 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Commando (Post 775891)
I heard at the sort the last week, that BT has told UPS management that he is going forward. This is one of the reasons UPS walked away from the Savings.

BM had UPS had a handshake agreement since 1996. This is why BM never followed through on his campaign promises. Once BT wouldn't kiss there butt on this issue, UPS decided to furlough. IMO.

IMO, you have the sequence backward. Cancel the MOU and furlough then the cards to Management.

Displaced Again 03-09-2010 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Commando (Post 775891)
I heard at the sort the last week, that BT has told UPS management that he is going forward. This is one of the reasons UPS walked away from the Savings.

Wrong!

UPS walked away from the savings because its not about the money...

I have it from a fairly reliable source that Management found out about it last night, they were just as surprised as everyone else. No threats, no promises. Maybe a last ditch effort to end the furlough.

It will be an interesting few weeks coming up...

DA

Tigerpilot1995 03-09-2010 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Displaced Again (Post 775925)
Maybe a last ditch effort to end the furlough.

How is that? This is like raping their daughters. BT isn't going to back down on this issue and he shouldn't. There will be no trade off. I understand we will need more guys if they are working under out contract but UPS doesn't do stuff rationally. They will cut their noses off to spite their face and show us who is boss. I expect to be on the streets, actually starting to look forward to it.

Tigerpilot1995 03-09-2010 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Displaced Again (Post 775925)
I have it from a fairly reliable source that Management found out about it last night, they were just as surprised as everyone else.
DA

A manager told me 2 weeks ago he had been told to expect this from someone on our side. I think some managers are plugged in better than others. The guys in ANC really seem plugged into the IPA, at least most.

Shaggy1970 03-09-2010 09:11 AM

About time we settled this issue once and for all!

Displaced Again 03-09-2010 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Tigerpilot1995 (Post 775932)
How is that?

Think of it this way: IMHO if the Managers are members of the union, and they want to furlough, and we have a J/A -Opentime ban, uh, how do the trips get covered that fall through the cracks?

Then you need to look at the last strike we endured, uh, who was flying during that strike? Oh ya, it was the Managers, and even if we had 50% compliance, that is a lot less stuff they can move, and hopefully the issue is resolved quicker.

Bottom Line: IMO it is a lot less likely UPS can furlough anyone with the Managers in the fold, time will tell...

DA

Night Eagle 03-09-2010 09:44 AM

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