FliFast

Anyone privy to discussions that UPS will offer voluntary furloughes to help mitigate involuntary furloughs...especially if someone has a job offer elsewhere ?

Buck92

Doesn't that kinda fly in the face of the other current rumor, "UPS will honor any resignation of seniority number?" H3ll of a deal. Love the mentality: we're gonna furlough you, but if you dare get another job, DON'T bother coming back!

VegasBoy

One has already surrendered his number.
I hear he had an earful with the ACP about integrity and why he chose not to work here anymore.

weatherman

i wonder if it's the same guy that i know about. not a doubt in my mind that ups will lose more pilots as this charade keeps up. that's not even to mention the amount of guys that they 'lost' for good, even if they do continue to work here.

i've never seen a more bitter and unified group than the bottom guys here at ups. ups will never recoup the cost of the misery that they put those guys through. whatever they hoped to gain by all this must be worth something on paper, that's for sure. in reality they will never pay for it though.

CactusCrew

This is all assuming they really want to furlough. Sure they plan on tossing 54 to the street just to get their hands on the RIF language.

And it will cost them dearly, eventually the RIF bidders return to their desired seats and domiciles...

I know what you are asking about FF. A respectable company with integrity that was truly approaching a furlough as a means to reduce crew costs would be all over a voluntary furlough. They might even get some top of the payscale Captains take a few years off to focus on their business and/or toys. It would be a win/win ...

But I find it hard to use respectable and integrity in a description of UPS, especially in regards to their furlough motives. Right on the company video they stated they need CONTRACT CONCESSIONS ... or proceed with a furlough. It really isn't about reducing body count.

furloughman

I agree. It's gonna be tough to win back this bottom 300 crowd... after all we've been through in the last decade with our previous airlines. Looking back, those were pretty darn good jobs compared to this place!

Freightpuppy

Can you elaborate? What airlines? My fiance is dying to get out of the commuters so I'm just wondering what places are good to wait for. Thanks.

Freightpuppy

That's great for him! Where did he get a job?

furloughman

Delta. I would go back there if it was possible. Better daytime flying and more secure with ten years seniority.

767pilot

I heard that they are still taking leaves of abscence requests if anyone wants a long term leave. As for that, and the guy that left, I don't see them changing the 54 or 300 number any.