Latest O'Gram - kidding me...
03-11-2010, 06:39 AM
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Latest O'Gram - kidding me...
"Once we get the flying hour projections for the next year, we will post the next bid. Best guess is first week of April. Expect excesses in the 727 and Airbus which might result in secondary awards in the 757 and 777. Although our plans call for a HKG MD domicile in addition to the current Bus domicile, the execution date has not been determined."
Didn't we just excess a whole bunch of people out of the 777 and 757 into the 727 with all the excess bids last year...exactly what I thought it was A BUMP AND FLUSH!
FedEx is a great company, but FedEx Flight Management is run by a bunch of idiots who are making some of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen...least of which is the fact that our Safety and CRM programs are 15 years behind the rest of the industry. How about we get some managers that have worked at another 121 carrier at some point in their career and quit the "good old boy network to the top"???
Sorry about the rant, but thanks for listening!
Didn't we just excess a whole bunch of people out of the 777 and 757 into the 727 with all the excess bids last year...exactly what I thought it was A BUMP AND FLUSH!
FedEx is a great company, but FedEx Flight Management is run by a bunch of idiots who are making some of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen...least of which is the fact that our Safety and CRM programs are 15 years behind the rest of the industry. How about we get some managers that have worked at another 121 carrier at some point in their career and quit the "good old boy network to the top"???
Sorry about the rant, but thanks for listening!
03-11-2010, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AirHead328
"Once we get the flying hour projections for the next year, we will post the next bid. Best guess is first week of April. Expect excesses in the 727 and Airbus which might result in secondary awards in the 757 and 777. Although our plans call for a HKG MD domicile in addition to the current Bus domicile, the execution date has not been determined."
Didn't we just excess a whole bunch of people out of the 777 and 757 into the 727 with all the excess bids last year...exactly what I thought it was A BUMP AND FLUSH!
FedEx is a great company, but FedEx Flight Management is run by a bunch of idiots who are making some of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen...least of which is the fact that our Safety and CRM programs are 15 years behind the rest of the industry. How about we get some managers that have worked at another 121 carrier at some point in their career and quit the "good old boy network to the top"???
Sorry about the rant, but thanks for listening!
Didn't we just excess a whole bunch of people out of the 777 and 757 into the 727 with all the excess bids last year...exactly what I thought it was A BUMP AND FLUSH!
FedEx is a great company, but FedEx Flight Management is run by a bunch of idiots who are making some of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen...least of which is the fact that our Safety and CRM programs are 15 years behind the rest of the industry. How about we get some managers that have worked at another 121 carrier at some point in their career and quit the "good old boy network to the top"???
Sorry about the rant, but thanks for listening!
03-11-2010, 07:00 AM
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I really don't think an excess out of the 727 or Bus will result in 'secondary awards to the 757 and 777'.
I think OR meant to say some might bid to relieve excess and go where their seniority allows, which includes the 757 and 777.
Based on that I think the vacancy bid for 757 will be interesting to watch. Might not provide opportunities for very many.
I think OR meant to say some might bid to relieve excess and go where their seniority allows, which includes the 757 and 777.
Based on that I think the vacancy bid for 757 will be interesting to watch. Might not provide opportunities for very many.
03-11-2010, 08:42 AM
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Mark,
I'm sure that the company has looked at their business with an eye toward posting an excess bid, just for the sole purpose of bumping your skinny butt down the seniority ladder. Oh, boo hoo. Another example of a captain only thinking of himself. Gee, what a surprise from you.
JJ
I'm sure that the company has looked at their business with an eye toward posting an excess bid, just for the sole purpose of bumping your skinny butt down the seniority ladder. Oh, boo hoo. Another example of a captain only thinking of himself. Gee, what a surprise from you.
JJ
03-11-2010, 09:00 AM
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This is another excess bid, but he stated seats are available in the 777 and 757. Instead of posting PRIMARY Vacancies, the company is playing "excess roulette" and hoping enough individuals will "bid to relieve" excess.
Basically, it is a move for many 727 pilots to 757 (another training cycle anyone?). And a few pilots will find their way to the 777. The interesting excess will be any pilots to ANC or LAX and the bottom of the MD-11 lists...(again).
During the last excess bid, was any pilot excessed off the 757 aircraft? 777?
Basically, it is a move for many 727 pilots to 757 (another training cycle anyone?). And a few pilots will find their way to the 777. The interesting excess will be any pilots to ANC or LAX and the bottom of the MD-11 lists...(again).
During the last excess bid, was any pilot excessed off the 757 aircraft? 777?
03-11-2010, 09:08 AM
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The way vacancies will be filled for a while
Originally Posted by Lindy
This is another excess bid, but he stated seats are available in the 777 and 757. Instead of posting PRIMARY Vacancies, the company is playing "excess roulette" and hoping enough individuals will "bid to relieve" excess.
Basically, it is a move for many 727 pilots to 757 (another training cycle anyone?). And a few pilots will find their way to the 777. The interesting excess will be any pilots to ANC or LAX and the bottom of the MD-11 lists...(again).
During the last excess bid, was any pilot excessed off the 757 aircraft? 777?
Basically, it is a move for many 727 pilots to 757 (another training cycle anyone?). And a few pilots will find their way to the 777. The interesting excess will be any pilots to ANC or LAX and the bottom of the MD-11 lists...(again).
During the last excess bid, was any pilot excessed off the 757 aircraft? 777?
The company should excess 1 from every seat so WE ALL have an equal opportunity to, as they say "bid what we want to fly".
03-11-2010, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Lindy
During the last excess bid, was any pilot excessed off the 757 aircraft?
Excess roulette it is. Place your bets.
You know the company wants senior 727 FOs to move up, right? Considering that, previous and upcoming excess bids make more sense. This know no other method to motivate them to move.
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