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Old 03-15-2010, 03:08 PM
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Do we currently shoot RNAV (GPS) approaches outside of the US for the B747-400?
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Do we currently shoot RNAV (GPS) approaches outside of the US for the B747-400?
Unless something has changed in the QRH Non-Precision approach briefing guide, GPS and RNAV (GPS) approaches are not authorized outside of U.S. airspace.
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Flight Control doesn't have a QRH Non-Precision approach briefing guide. We utilize the OPSPECS and it states that we are authorized to do it. I believe that it's been assumed up until now that we can dispatch a B747-400 predicated on the RNAV (GPS) approach outside of the U.S.

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At Purple we've been doing them outside the US for years in our MD's ...

IF I remember correctly, the RNAV at SFS actually had lower mins than the ILS?
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Old 03-15-2010, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GOCKY View Post
Flight Control doesn't have a QRH Non-Precision approach briefing guide. We utilize the OPSPECS and it states that we are authorized to do it. I believe that it's been assumed up until now that we can dispatch a B747-400 predicated on the RNAV (GPS) approach outside of the U.S.

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Ok, let me answer your original question more directly...

In the year and a half I've been flying the 747-400, I have never shot a single RNAV (GPS) approach in the aircraft...never. The only place I've ever done it is in the simulator at the training center in ANC. Oh yeah, and it's always the RNAV (GPS) 7R approach at ANC.

ILS approaches or visual approaches backed up with an ILS is pretty much our world.

Can you quote a specific section/page reference in the OpsSpecs Manual?
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"Menish Airlines, how may I direct your call?"
Hahahaha! Nicely done!
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Perhaps he was asking in regards to "available" Nav-Aid approaches for dispatch.

Would it ever come down to doing one - probably not, but at least at my previous employer if you had two approaches available at your time of arrival you would have different alternate minimums/requirements.

Just a thought.
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Perhaps he was asking in regards to "available" Nav-Aid approaches for dispatch.
That's not what he asked in his original post. He asked if we shoot RNAV (GPS) approaches outside of the U.S. in the -400. The answer is no.
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