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Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 779869)

You are right. We haven't seen any evidence on one for one job savings for retirements/quitting/ or LOA's.

Question- If a guy takes a mil LOA, can he come back any time he wants if his orders change? If so, I can see them not giving us credit for that as a job save.

UPS did give full credit to Mil leaves under MOU1 and MOU2, and the same caveat applied (they could come back early, but the IPA still got full credit)

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Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 779873)

UPS did give full credit to Mil leaves under MOU1 and MOU2, and the same caveat applied (they could come back early, but the IPA still got full credit)

Yea, I was wondering about now though. I guess that there are no rules any more, back to them doing what they wanted. Under the MOU they gave us credit for a lot of stuff that we didn't really earn. For example, full credit for RDG when they used the pilots in some domiciles/seatsand didn't use the full amount of RDG. The company actually figured that in the end, they got 85% value for each dollar that we pledged. Not our fault, theirs entirely, but that was what it came out to and explains a little bit of their reluctance to go forward with MOU3....that and the fact that they are a bunch of butt heads trying to pick a fight <G>

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Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 779889)

The Butt Head factor may show up more as the volume picks up and other carriers skim off the new business, competition buying airplanes and preparing to expand , Fedex retaining people and reportedly increasing some flying.
Given the honesty level of UPS we will have to watch closely that they aren't double breasting us some places in the world.