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OOTSK 07-17-2006 03:20 PM

UPS ANC Base
 
Just read this on airupsers???

UPS to establish Anchorage domicile
To facilitate the growth of the Asia flight network, UPS Airlines will open a new pilot domicile in Anchorage, Alaska. The opening of this domicile will improve operational flexibility, efficiency and reliability.
Initially, the Anchorage domicile will be staffed by 80 MD-11 pilots, some of whom will be transfers and some of whom will be upgrades. The process of bidding for Anchorage opportunities will begin with a vacancy bid package that will go out on July 28.

After the bidding, staffing and training processes are completed, the company anticipates that the domicile will be active no later than May 2007.

UPS is consulting with the Independent Pilots Association on the new domicile, according to Capt. Rick Barr, UPS airline operations manager. “We held advance discussions with the IPA’s Executive Board last week, and Flight Operations and the union have agreed to work together to avoid any problems or issues in opening Anchorage,” Barr said.

To help crewmembers understand how the new domicile will work, the company is working with the IPA to create a sample bid package with sample flight lines.

Barr also made it clear that the Anchorage announcement is not related to the tentative labor agreement between UPS and the IPA. “We’re not seeking any contractual waivers from the IPA on the new domicile and plan to move forward regardless of what happens with ratification,” he said. “This is simply the right thing to do to position ourselves for growth.”

Growth in the air business led UPS to announce last week that it will hire an additional 150 crewmembers by the end of 2006. The company is also planning to hire at least 150 more crewmembers in 2007.

fedupbusdriver 07-17-2006 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by OOTSK
Just read this on airupsers???

UPS to establish Anchorage domicile
To facilitate the growth of the Asia flight network, UPS Airlines will open a new pilot domicile in Anchorage, Alaska. The opening of this domicile will improve operational flexibility, efficiency and reliability.
Initially, the Anchorage domicile will be staffed by 80 MD-11 pilots, some of whom will be transfers and some of whom will be upgrades. The process of bidding for Anchorage opportunities will begin with a vacancy bid package that will go out on July 28.

After the bidding, staffing and training processes are completed, the company anticipates that the domicile will be active no later than May 2007.

UPS is consulting with the Independent Pilots Association on the new domicile, according to Capt. Rick Barr, UPS airline operations manager. “We held advance discussions with the IPA’s Executive Board last week, and Flight Operations and the union have agreed to work together to avoid any problems or issues in opening Anchorage,” Barr said.

To help crewmembers understand how the new domicile will work, the company is working with the IPA to create a sample bid package with sample flight lines.

Barr also made it clear that the Anchorage announcement is not related to the tentative labor agreement between UPS and the IPA. “We’re not seeking any contractual waivers from the IPA on the new domicile and plan to move forward regardless of what happens with ratification,” he said. “This is simply the right thing to do to position ourselves for growth.”

Growth in the air business led UPS to announce last week that it will hire an additional 150 crewmembers by the end of 2006. The company is also planning to hire at least 150 more crewmembers in 2007.


Does your TA address new domiciles; ie move packages, etc...?

brownwhalerider 07-18-2006 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
Does your TA address new domiciles; ie move packages, etc...?


Yes, and so does our current TA. As stated in the release this is going to happen even if we vote down the TA.

BWR

Sasquatch 07-18-2006 04:04 PM

You brown guys think this base will go super junior?

Trash Hauler 1 07-18-2006 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Sasquatch
You brown guys think this base will go super junior?

In my opinion it will be a split. We have 5 or so guys in ANC that are pretty senior and 7-8 that are mid range. I see the new capt slots going very junior and the F/O positions mid-seniority. My ancient ass will be trying to get one of the Capt vacancies, but only if it happens before my FedEx interview. Gonna be a lot of folks wondering what kind of wine goes well with killer whale and raven.:D

TH1

Rocket Bob 07-18-2006 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1
In my opinion it will be a split. We have 5 or so guys in ANC that are pretty senior and 7-8 that are mid range. I see the new capt slots going very junior and the F/O positions mid-seniority. My ancient ass will be trying to get one of the Capt vacancies, but only if it happens before my FedEx interview. Gonna be a lot of folks wondering what kind of wine goes well with killer whale and raven.:D

TH1

You can hold Captain at this place and you're interviewin' at FedEx? Can't tell if you're kidding on that one...

Trash Hauler 1 07-18-2006 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by Rocket Bob
You can hold Captain at this place and you're interviewin' at FedEx? Can't tell if you're kidding on that one...


No joke. I turned FedEx down in 97 and I have lived to regret it. If I could get hired there, I would be outta SDF in a NY minute. To be honest, I can't quite hold Capt yet, but I'm about 100 out. UPS will forever be a crappy place to work, where the employees hate coming to work. At current rates, I see me getting back to my current pay rate in 3 years. YMMV

TH1

Freighter Captain 07-18-2006 10:39 PM

Trash, don't let UPS get to you. It's our flying colleagues that make our job livable, not the Dumb and Gummers or Houston "We have a Problem"s.

I'm wondering what the current junior UPS captains will do when they're displaced to a place like Anchorage. Wish they had bypassed the upgrade?

Freightpuppy 07-19-2006 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1
No joke. I turned FedEx down in 97 and I have lived to regret it. If I could get hired there, I would be outta SDF in a NY minute. To be honest, I can't quite hold Capt yet, but I'm about 100 out. UPS will forever be a crappy place to work, where the employees hate coming to work. At current rates, I see me getting back to my current pay rate in 3 years. YMMV

TH1

Doooood. Good luck to you. I hope you don't go over there and live to regret THAT. You just never know....the grass isn't always greener on the other side. It's definitely a ballsy move for someone with your seniority. Seriously though, good luck with whatever decision you make.

Trash Hauler 1 07-19-2006 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
Doooood. Good luck to you. I hope you don't go over there and live to regret THAT. You just never know....the grass isn't always greener on the other side. It's definitely a ballsy move for someone with your seniority. Seriously though, good luck with whatever decision you make.

Thanks ! Still haven't heard from their HR dept, but I know they are processing a mess of apps.

Pilot7576 07-19-2006 06:47 AM

going to fedex
 
Trashhauler..

Either you're shining people on or you really haven't done any research over there where the grass is supposedly greener. But you'll make a lot of junior fo's happy here if you bail to fredex. And maybe you'll be able to fly with the gal with the sock puppet over there..she sounds like a hoot.

Remember, the grass is always greener over the septic tank <BG>

JMO

Pilot7576

2cylinderdriver 07-19-2006 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot7576
Trashhauler..

Either you're shining people on or you really haven't done any research over there where the grass is supposedly greener. But you'll make a lot of junior fo's happy here if you bail to fredex. And maybe you'll be able to fly with the gal with the sock puppet over there..she sounds like a hoot.

Remember, the grass is always greener over the septic tank <BG>

JMO

Pilot7576

Puppet Pilot is no longer employed at FedEx ! Very interesting story.

OOTSK 07-19-2006 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver
Puppet Pilot is no longer employed at FedEx ! Very interesting story.

Ok, I'll bite. What is the story behind that??? Thanks in advance.

2cylinderdriver 07-19-2006 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by OOTSK
Ok, I'll bite. What is the story behind that??? Thanks in advance.

There are many versions, but the basic story is she would pull out this sock puppet and would talk to it in the cockpit. Supposedly she did this during an FAA observed sim check following an incident in Europe and thas when she left. Medical, Disability or fired I do not know. She may have been trying to pull a section 8 like Klinger ? Maybe she is smarter than we all think, but I know she struggled big time through 727 and A300 Captain schools.

MD11Fr8Dog 07-19-2006 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver
Puppet Pilot is no longer employed at FedEx ! Very interesting story.

Scary if you ask me and took way too long, same with D.C.

Nashmd11 07-19-2006 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Freighter Captain
Trash, don't let UPS get to you. It's our flying colleagues that make our job livable, not the Dumb and Gummers or Houston "We have a Problem"s.

I'm wondering what the current junior UPS captains will do when they're displaced to a place like Anchorage. Wish they had bypassed the upgrade?

They will be bidding the 747-400 FO. Read the Contract! One may downbid with any NEW equipment or New domicle.

UPS A-380 pilot 07-19-2006 12:06 PM

Hate to see you go Paul.

tomgoodman 07-19-2006 12:14 PM

Freddy the Fox
 

Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver
There are many versions, but the basic story is she would pull out this sock puppet and would talk to it in the cockpit.


Many years ago, there was a DAL captain who would issue instructions to the f/o and s/o via a hand puppet called "Freddy the Fox". This became a source of annoyance, and one day Freddy mysteriously disappeared. A photo of Freddy in a noose was posted on a bulletin board. His owner was frantic. A chief pilot eventually put the squeeze on likely suspects and rescued Freddy the Fox, but grounded him. :rolleyes:

UPS A-380 pilot 07-19-2006 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Many years ago, there was a DAL captain who would issue instructions to the f/o and s/o via a hand puppet called "Freddy the Fox". This became a source of annoyance, and one day Freddy mysteriously disappeared. A photo of Freddy in a noose was posted on a bulletin board. His owner was frantic. A chief pilot eventually put the squeeze on likely suspects and rescued Freddy the Fox, but grounded him. :rolleyes:



So that's how they got you to "retire"? :p

sandman2122 07-19-2006 12:43 PM

From Pilot75767

Trashhauler..

Either you're shining people on or you really haven't done any research over there where the grass is supposedly greener. But you'll make a lot of junior fo's happy here if you bail to fredex. And maybe you'll be able to fly with the gal with the sock puppet over there..she sounds like a hoot.

Remember, the grass is always greener over the septic tank <BG>

JMO

Pilot7576
Hey Martin,

Pat - aka "don't call me Pat" is long gone - she was a nightmare to fly with....
Ugly as a hoot btw......

Adios.

Freighter Captain 07-19-2006 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Nashmd11
They will be bidding the 747-400 FO. Read the Contract! One may downbid with any NEW equipment or New domicle.

You're right Nash-- my bad.

Trash Hauler 1 07-19-2006 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=Pilot7576]Trashhauler..

Either you're shining people on or you really haven't done any research over there where the grass is supposedly greener. But you'll make a lot of junior fo's happy here if you bail to fredex. And maybe you'll be able to fly with the gal with the sock puppet over there..she sounds like a hoot.

Au contraire, mon frere! I have studied both UPS and FedEx in detail and although UPS financials are unmatched, FedEx in my opinion has the vision to continue to succeed. Although no place is perfect, Fred seems to take better care of the folks, even if the underlying reason is to keep the pilot's union at bay. We as a union have done to ourselves what UPS has tried to do since the IPA was founded. We are badly fractured and unable to reach a consensus on virtually anything. When this POS TA passes by a slim margin, the icing will be on the cake and the union will be immasculated for at least the duration of the contract plus the usual 3+ year negotiating period. At that point I'll be retired and the point will be moot. Sorry to sound so negative, but sometime its better to cut your losses and start over.

MD11Fr8Dog 07-20-2006 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by sandman2122
From Pilot75767

Hey Martin,

Pat - aka "don't call me Pat" is long gone - she was a nightmare to fly with....
Ugly as a hoot btw......

Adios.

Androgenous! :)

FR8Hauler 07-20-2006 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by sandman2122
From Pilot75767

Hey Martin,

Pat - aka "don't call me Pat" is long gone - she was a nightmare to fly with....
Ugly as a hoot btw......

Adios.

I spent a week flying SIBA with Patricia don't call me Patty in the 727, I was ready to slit my wrists...

MD11Fr8Dog 07-20-2006 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by FR8Hauler
I spent a week flying SIBA with Patricia don't call me Patty in the 727, I was ready to slit my wrists...

Someone mentioned in the AOC today said that they heard she was coming back! I hope that's a bad rumor!

fecav8r 07-21-2006 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
Someone mentioned in the AOC today said that they heard she was coming back! I hope that's a bad rumor!


it is, I promise


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